dhazer
16 years ago
[quote="Zero2Cool"]
Wait, I know why it's Rodgers fault. He spread the ball to something like ten different receivers. What a FOOL! And what's this? He's tops in the league on third down? My god if he was any good we wouldn't ever HAVE a third down!

Like i said I don't blame Rodgers on the Loss but seeing you want to bring up guessing stats why don't you mention how we have lost so many close games and the almighty Rodgers (don't know if he leads or not) has a awesome 46 for a passer rating in the last 5 minutes of a game.

But like i said this game was all on MM and he blew it again.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
16 years ago
CDN.......I agree. Rodger's numbers don't lie. 3730 yards, 25 TD's, 13 INT's, and a passer rating of 91.4.
Damn good numbers.
Had the D and special teams not had meltdowns at the worst possible times, the "Rodgers haters" wouldn't even be visiting this site.
They put all the blame on AR, yet their "hero" has lots worse numbers then AR this season.
But the "hero" gets all the praise for the wins, and AR gets all the blame for our losses.
UserPostedImage
dhazer
16 years ago

CDN.......I agree. Rodger's numbers don't lie. 3730 yards, 25 TD's, 13 INT's, and a passer rating of 91.4.
Damn good numbers.
Had the D and special teams not had meltdowns at the worst possible times, the "Rodgers haters" wouldn't even be visiting this site.
They put all the blame on Aaron Rodgers, yet their "hero" has lots worse numbers then Aaron Rodgers this season.
But the "hero" gets all the praise for the wins, and Aaron Rodgers gets all the blame for our losses.

"Cheesey" wrote:




Why should things be different Rodgers is a good qb in the first 55 minutes of a game that i won't deny. But imagine if he could continue in the last 5 minutes of games what would his stats be.
As far as the praise and blame remember how many people blamed the former qb for the loss in the championship game last year.

Like i have said all along i will take wins over good stats any day.

heres a question for all what do

kerry collins, joe flacco, and gus ferrotte all have in common?

they are ranked 20th or worse in passing but are all going to the playoffs.

I really think we need a new head coach or atleast MM should let Rodgers finish the game instead of pulling the reigns in on him.
this whole season is on MM and his bs play calling at the end of games.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
longtimefan
16 years ago

CDN.......I agree. Rodger's numbers don't lie. 3730 yards, 25 TD's, 13 INT's, and a passer rating of 91.4.
Damn good numbers.
Had the D and special teams not had meltdowns at the worst possible times, the "Rodgers haters" wouldn't even be visiting this site.
They put all the blame on Aaron Rodgers, yet their "hero" has lots worse numbers then Aaron Rodgers this season.
But the "hero" gets all the praise for the wins, and Aaron Rodgers gets all the blame for our losses.

"dhazer" wrote:




Why should things be different Rodgers is a good qb in the first 55 minutes of a game that i won't deny. But imagine if he could continue in the last 5 minutes of games what would his stats be.
As far as the praise and blame remember how many people blamed the former qb for the loss in the championship game last year.

Like i have said all along i will take wins over good stats any day.

heres a question for all what do

kerry collins, joe flacco, and gus ferrotte all have in common?

they are ranked 20th or worse in passing but are all going to the playoffs.

I really think we need a new head coach or atleast Mike McCarthy should let Rodgers finish the game instead of pulling the reigns in on him.
this whole season is on Mike McCarthy and his bs play calling at the end of games.

"Cheesey" wrote:




Come on Dh, those 3 have what in common?

Collins....Tenn D

Flaco...Baltimore D

Gus...Minny D

you just stated a perfect case as to what is a major issue with the Packers this year...Arent those 3 D in top 10 if not better?



Mike splay calling has been very odd, but I will have to look into it more, but I am pretty sure had similar things called last year too..


Here is something I found interesting...

According to yahoo sports

BF has had 9 games that were late and close..He threw 1 td and 3 ints...66 atts..

Close is 7 tds and 7 int in 163 att

I do not know what they use for late and close


AR they say is 4 tds and 4 int in 80 att for late and close

Close is 13 tds and 6 ints in 272 att
dhazer
16 years ago

CDN.......I agree. Rodger's numbers don't lie. 3730 yards, 25 TD's, 13 INT's, and a passer rating of 91.4.
Damn good numbers.
Had the D and special teams not had meltdowns at the worst possible times, the "Rodgers haters" wouldn't even be visiting this site.
They put all the blame on Aaron Rodgers, yet their "hero" has lots worse numbers then Aaron Rodgers this season.
But the "hero" gets all the praise for the wins, and Aaron Rodgers gets all the blame for our losses.

"longtimefan" wrote:




Why should things be different Rodgers is a good qb in the first 55 minutes of a game that i won't deny. But imagine if he could continue in the last 5 minutes of games what would his stats be.
As far as the praise and blame remember how many people blamed the former qb for the loss in the championship game last year.

Like i have said all along i will take wins over good stats any day.

heres a question for all what do

kerry collins, joe flacco, and gus ferrotte all have in common?

they are ranked 20th or worse in passing but are all going to the playoffs.

I really think we need a new head coach or atleast Mike McCarthy should let Rodgers finish the game instead of pulling the reigns in on him.
this whole season is on Mike McCarthy and his bs play calling at the end of games.

"dhazer" wrote:




Come on Dh, those 3 have what in common?

Collins....Tenn D

Flaco...Baltimore D

Gus...Minny D

you just stated a perfect case as to what is a major issue with the Packers this year...Arent those 3 D in top 10 if not better?



Mike splay calling has been very odd,but I will have to look into it more,but I am pretty sure had similar things called last year too..
Here is something I found interesting...

According to yahoo sports

Brett Favre has had 9 games that were late and close..He threw 1 td and 3 ints...66 atts..

Close is 7 tds and 7 int in 163 att

I do not know what they use for late and close


Aaron Rodgers they say is 4 tds and 4 int in 80 att

Close is 13 tds and 6 ints in 272 att

Close its 13 tds to 6 int

"Cheesey" wrote:





I have no clue what those stats could be long. They showed Rodgers final 5 minute stats and they sucked. But after watching the last few games it could be from MM and shitty play calling. And as far as those qbs Baltimore is i belive the highest scoring offense in the past 5 weeks.


Actually those 3 offenses are top 13 that took me by shock.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
16 years ago

I have no clue what those stats could be long. They showed Rodgers final 5 minute stats and they sucked. But after watching the last few games it could be from Mike McCarthy and shitty play calling. And as far as those qbs Baltimore is i belive the highest scoring offense in the past 5 weeks.


Actually those 3 offenses are top 13 that took me by shock.

"dhazer" wrote:



Yes, it is shocking that when your defense and special teams puts your offense in good scoring position that it helps your offense, tremendously! Remember the '96 season the packers lead the league in scoring? Field position!!! Defense!!!

What are we lacking this year? Field position, DEFENSE!


Look at the WHOLE picture dh, not just ONE player on a 53 man roster. It's getting REALLY old, REALLY fast. Almost as old as people saying our old QB lost us the game in the championship. This is a team game, the team wins, the team loses. If special teams blows, the teams gonna have harder time scoring. IF the defense, oh nevermind. If you don't get it through your thick head by now, you never will.
UserPostedImage
DanJustDan29
16 years ago
One word...

Chico.
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another. -Vince Lombardi
dhazer
16 years ago
Zero all i'm saying is this team isn't that good but it seems like everyone is giving Rodgers a pass and blaming everyone else i totally agree with you that each game is lost by the full team.

I also am starting to think MM isn't that great of a coach and a very bad play caller.

I know it sounded like i was bashing Rodgers but i'm trying to make people see he is at as much blame as everyone else thats all.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

CDN.......I agree. Rodger's numbers don't lie. 3730 yards, 25 TD's, 13 INT's, and a passer rating of 91.4.
Damn good numbers.
Had the D and special teams not had meltdowns at the worst possible times, the "Rodgers haters" wouldn't even be visiting this site.
They put all the blame on Aaron Rodgers, yet their "hero" has lots worse numbers then Aaron Rodgers this season.
But the "hero" gets all the praise for the wins, and Aaron Rodgers gets all the blame for our losses.

"dhazer" wrote:




Why should things be different Rodgers is a good qb in the first 55 minutes of a game that i won't deny. But imagine if he could continue in the last 5 minutes of games what would his stats be.
As far as the praise and blame remember how many people blamed the former qb for the loss in the championship game last year.

Like i have said all along i will take wins over good stats any day.

heres a question for all what do

kerry collins, joe flacco, and gus ferrotte all have in common?

they are ranked 20th or worse in passing but are all going to the playoffs.

I really think we need a new head coach or atleast Mike McCarthy should let Rodgers finish the game instead of pulling the reigns in on him.
this whole season is on Mike McCarthy and his bs play calling at the end of games.

"longtimefan" wrote:




Come on Dh, those 3 have what in common?

Collins....Tenn D

Flaco...Baltimore D

Gus...Minny D

you just stated a perfect case as to what is a major issue with the Packers this year...Arent those 3 D in top 10 if not better?



Mike splay calling has been very odd,but I will have to look into it more,but I am pretty sure had similar things called last year too..
Here is something I found interesting...

According to yahoo sports

Brett Favre has had 9 games that were late and close..He threw 1 td and 3 ints...66 atts..

Close is 7 tds and 7 int in 163 att

I do not know what they use for late and close


Aaron Rodgers they say is 4 tds and 4 int in 80 att

Close is 13 tds and 6 ints in 272 att

Close its 13 tds to 6 int

"dhazer" wrote:





I have no clue what those stats could be long. They showed Rodgers final 5 minute stats and they sucked. But after watching the last few games it could be from Mike McCarthy and shitty play calling. And as far as those qbs Baltimore is i belive the highest scoring offense in the past 5 weeks.


Actually those 3 offenses are top 13 that took me by shock.

"Cheesey" wrote:




I'll start by saying that the only thing I think you're getting wrong in this debate is that you say nobody's assigning Rodgers his fair share of the blame, and I don't think you're right about that. I've seen plenty of people a. Agreeing with you that he hasn't looked great at the end of games, and b. Admitting that he lost us a couple games (Tampa, etc.).

Now, as for the ranking of the offenses: The Titans have either the #1 or #2 rushing offense, so that accounts in large part for their success. So Collins has that to lean on (although I will agree he's stepped up when he needed to for the most part). Same goes for Minny. So w/ those 2 teams you're looking at top-shelf RBs performing at a very high level and good OL play - things the Packers didn't have on a reliable basis this year.

Baltimore is its own story, but again they've generally run well and had reasonably good OL play. Add the defenses on those 3 teams, and you can easily explain how those teams are winning despite non-stellar QB play.

Seriously, I haven't seen but a couple people saying that Aaron's not at fault. He's a part of a team that has under-performed, as a team. This "Rodgers love fest" you obsess about is nothing more than people responding to trolls (not you, and you know who I'm talking about) who insist that the reason the team has underperformed is the change at QB and thus focus everything in that direction. When you started in on Rodgers' stats in the last 5 minutes, you fed the trolls, and all anyone's been trying to do since is to point out that there's more going on in those final 5 minutes than Rodgers.
blank
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
beast (21-Mar) : Unsigned FA QB Rodgers is supposedly in the Steelers building
Martha Careful (19-Mar) : But I don't own a car! So can I still use it in my apartment?
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : btw, new site auto updates
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : Woohoo!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

21-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.