MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

GREEN BAY — Mike McCarthy has been coaching quarterbacks for a long time, and he's been the Green Bay Packers head coach for going on eight years.

But he doesn't have the faintest idea how the Vince Young experiment is going to work out, even after Young looked OK during Friday night's preseason-opening loss to the Arizona Cardinals at Lambeau Field.

"I don't know if I've been through one like this, where you bring in a guy this late," McCarthy said of Young, whom the Packers worked on Aug. 5 and signed the next day. "I've been part of situations where you sign a veteran quarterback at the last cut, but I've never brought one in three days before the first preseason game."

For a guy with limited exposure to the team's playbook and only three practices with his new team under his belt, Young acquitted himself well. Entering the game after backup Graham Harrell and playing two series, he completed 1 of 3 passes — a 7-yard completion to Alex Gillett to convert a third-and-7 — and also ran twice for 12 yards, including a 5-yard scramble on third-and-2 to pick up another first down.

Quarterbacks coach Ben McAdoo said in advance of the game that Young would have to learn the offense differently than his quarterback counterparts because he missed the first seven installations of the offensive playbook.

"The other guys have had the benefit of getting the installations three times. The hard part is, he's not going to get them. He's going to get them by game plan," McAdoo explained. "So you're going to have to teach everything by game plan. I will say this: When he showed up, he was ready to work and he was excited to work. I think a lot of the guy in the short time he's been here, he's approached it the right way, he's fitting in in the room and he's working to take our terminology and put it into what he knew in the past and merge them so he has something to sink his teeth into and then go out and perform.

"He's also trying to digest what we're asking him to do fundamentally, and that's a lot, but he's very capable. Very capable."

What Young will be capable from here remains to be seen, but McCarthy sure sounds encouraged. Look for him to get more work in practice this week and perhaps see more playing time at St. Louis on Saturday night than he had in the opener.

"We were able to spend some time (Friday) morning and iron out a package for him. I thought he did some nice things," McCarthy said. "It was good to just get him out there. I wanted to get him out there. He hasn't played football in a year. Obviously, playing the quarterback position is a little different than playing other positions. I was happy to get him into the game, get him into the flow of the game and definitely get him started. We'll try to do more with him next week."

Why is McCarthy so excited about Young? Despite an up-and-down career, he's won 31 of the 50 games he's started in the NFL and won the 2006 national championship at the University of Texas.

"I'll be honest with you, the thing about Vince Young just from my personal opinion in the evaluation process was, the man's winner. The man's won games. He's won championships," McCarthy said.

"He fits good into our room, but obviously he's at a disadvantage because he hasn't been here. He's got a lot to learn, and Ben McAdoo's doing a great job with him. Them two are spending a lot of extra time. We'll do a much better job of getting him ready to play against St. Louis."

For his part, Young wasn't getting head of himself.

"It's football. It's a game that I love. I'm definitely happy to be back out there playing and definitely happy that Green Bay gave me an opportunity to play with a fantastic team," Young said. "But overall, I'm just happy to be back out there and getting my feet wet."

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Dulak
11 years ago
I dont know much about his personality but I hope he does well.

If we did really well he's be a nice addition to our team until next year where someone pilfers him 😉
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I dont know much about his personality but I hope he does well.

If we did really well he's be a nice addition to our team until next year where someone pilfers him ;)

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



This is definately a 1 year experiment, if it gets that far.

Right now Mike is saying all the right things about the 3 guys shooting for Aaron's backup job, but I believe deep down he has realized that Harrell is not the answer and Coleman needs more time.

I bet he is hoping Young can grasp enough of the offense in the next few weeks to be the backup.

Vince shows he can make The Packer team, whether he plays much at all there will be teams fighting over him next year and Ted won't be able to match their offers.

I'm hoping he wins the backup spot and can continue to get his career back on track.
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Cheesey
11 years ago
To me, Young looked the best of our backups.
He seemed to at least have an idea of what was going on. He wasn't great, but he looked better then the guys that had been here longer.
He could win the job by default.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

To me, Young looked the best of our backups.
He seemed to at least have an idea of what was going on. He wasn't great, but he looked better then the guys that had been here longer.
He could win the job by default.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



He looked like he belonged on an NFL field.

I'm not worried about Harrell's arm strength (or lack thereof.) What bothers me is his lack of poise. His mental attitude is that he is a boy among men, and he's too intimidated to go out there and kick some ass. Instead he's stumbling, bumbling and fumbling.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
11 years ago
JSO 

The Packers have cut back on the number of times nine-year veteran Aaron Rodgers is throwing in this training camp and the results have already been positive.



This isn't about Aaron.

This is about getting Young ready.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackerTraxx
11 years ago

He looked like he belonged on an NFL field.

I'm not worried about Harrell's arm strength (or lack thereof.) What bothers me is his lack of poise. His mental attitude is that he is a boy among men, and he's too intimidated to go out there and kick some ass. Instead he's stumbling, bumbling and fumbling.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You said it again...Joe Montana proved you don't need a rocket arm to be great if you're head is geared right.
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Dulak
11 years ago

He looked like he belonged on an NFL field.

I'm not worried about Harrell's arm strength (or lack thereof.) What bothers me is his lack of poise. His mental attitude is that he is a boy among men, and he's too intimidated to go out there and kick some ass. Instead he's stumbling, bumbling and fumbling.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



agree nerdman - reminds me of brohm; although brohm always looked more nervous ... Harrell looks more like the way you described.

That's why Im pulling for vince; at least he has some experience and has a big frame; should account for something.
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