Ryan Braun suspension should prompt different reaction from Aaron Rodgers· Page 4

MintBaconDrivel
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11 years ago

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers' outspoken support of Milwaukee Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun's staunch denial of performance-enhancing drug use came back to bite him this week when Braun was suspended 65 games by Major League Baseball and admitted that he was a great deal less than truthful in those denials. Rodgers addressed Braun's suspension and his...

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MintBaconDrivel
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11 years ago

#32

GREEN BAY — Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers was "shocked" by Ryan Braun's acceptance of a 65-game suspension from Major League Baseball, saying that the Milwaukee Brewers outfield looked him in the eye and lied to him "on multiple occasions" about his use of performance-enhancing drugs.

"I was shocked, I really was, just like many of you were," Rodgers told a throng of reporters at his locker after Friday's first practice of training camp. "I was backing up a friend who looked me in the eye on multiple occasions and repeatedly denied these allegations, said they weren't true.

"So, it is disappointing, not only for myself as a friend, but for obviously Wisconsin sports fans, Brewer fans, Major League Baseball fans. It doesn't feel great being lied to like that and I'm disappointed about the way it all went down."

Asked if Braun has reached out to him, Rodgers replied, "Yeah, I've talked to him."

Rodgers wouldn't address how the turn of events will affect their friendship or the Milwaukee-area restaurant 8-Twelve, which they are both involved with. However, he certainly didn't rule out the possibility of ending his business association with Braun

"That's yet to be determined yet," Rodgers replied. "I don't regret backing a friend up. Obviously, in hindsight, a more measured approach next time would obviously be the better course of action."

Rodgers, of course, was referring to his multiple posts to his Twitter account in February 2012, after Braun's 50-game suspension was overturned by an arbitrator. Rodgers Tweeted the hashtag #exonerated and also said he'd put his salary on his friend being clean. He also said ESPN and MLB were eating "crow" for going after Braun.

"People make mistakes. I definitely believe in forgiveness and moving forward. Obviously he has a tough task in front of him moving forward with his career on and off the field," Rodgers said of Braun. "As far as the business goes, right now, I'm focused on football, and I have people that can work with me on those type of issues."

"I was disappointed with the way it went down. I trusted him. And that's probably the thing that hurts the most."

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Wade
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11 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel

Maybe it's because I don't have as many friends as the average starting quarterback has, but I don't think I'd say "he lied to me" in public about any of them. Even if/when I think they have. Friends don't say that sort of thing of friends in public, IMO. I don't care how much egg you think you have on your face for being his defender before.

IMO, however true you think a label, you don't call out your friends in public. Just because some media/Twitter jackwagon gets in your face isn't an excuse.

IMO you don't do it even if you consider the person an "ex-friend" because of his lies.

Bad you, Mr. Rodgers.

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Pack93z
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11 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: Wade

See I see it the other way around.. my opinion, Braun hung not only Rodgers but his teammates, friends, organization, and family out to dry in this deal.

His speech in the desert in spring training last season left him with no wiggle room... he did not do it, and benefited from the support of many.

This is why I want to facts of how the Braun deal went down.. the when and how type information; because if Ryan knowingly accepted the support of all the above mentioned people while knowing that it all was a complete sham, then he has damaged a lot more than just his reputation.

Additionally, how he accepted the suspension without having to face the music instead of leaving on his team, teammates and friends is even more pathetic. He could have, as part of not challenging the appeal, asked that his lawyers (& MLB's legal team) forged more of a comment than the single one line that he released to take the burden upon himself... instead the burden is being felt by those defend him the most under his "mistakes".

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Wade
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11 years ago

#35

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I don't disagree with you on Braun. Not at all.

I just think that one thing friends shouldn't do is air the misbehavior themselves. Rodgers as a "friend" should have called him out for lying...but in private, between them.

It's one thing giving information to the justice system: a court might need to find out the dirt I have on my friends to protect others or "society" from them. What I know about my friends isn't legally priliveged.

But the media? The fans? The general public? No. Not from a "friend." I admire Rodgers for putting his name on the comments (rather than being an "unnamed source"; but I'd admire him even more if he said, "What's between my friends and me is between my friends and me. Eff off."

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Pack93z
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11 years ago

#36

Maybe.. just maybe.. by his statements here.. we know the status of the Rodgers / Braun friendship at the moment.

I know what you are saying.. but honestly, if you go to bat for someone to that extent with them knowing they are setting you up for possible failure.. is he really a friend?

But I agree... there are somethings, like teammates contracts, that Rodgers should just leave silent and out of the press.

BTW.. it is hard for me to defend a QB... I feel dirty now... lol.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

SINCITYCHEEZE
Senior Member

11 years ago

#37

Rogers response today to the Braun situation

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/sports/packers_and_nfl/aaron-rodgers-says-he-was-lied-to-by-ryan-braun

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dhpackr
Registered

11 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: Wade

I disagree. I applaud Aaron, and as I stated b/f, I'd end all business ties. I feel like you do not straight lie to your friends. If you do, I'd expect to be called out, and I'd expect "The Fraud" (Brewers fans new name for Braun) to apologize for placing Rodgers in such an awkward position.

I think Rodgers needs to set an example it is not OK to lie and cheat esp. in sports....

So if you meet me Have some courtesy, Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, Or I'll lay your soul to waste

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#39

Originally Posted by: Wade

I tend to agree with this. Just like I've been saying in the Greg Jennings thread, speaking out like this is just unnecessary. Perhaps Rodgers could get a bit of leniency in this case, since he stuck his foot in his mouth on Twitter, but that's pushing it. I can see why he would feel compelled to say SOMETHING, given how he spoke out. But still, he should have never spoke out like that on Twitter in the first place.

I just think these types of things should be kept private and only with the individuals in which it matters. Beyond that, it's just gossip. I understand it's much more difficult to keep things that way as a celebrity, and that means something, but Rodgers still screwed up in this situation.

Pack93z
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11 years ago

#40

Here is my question for those that say he should not have said Braun lied..

What direction do you suppose the media types are going to run with that? ... At least a few will start to ask the questions of "Was Rodgers involved in it?"

There is no way with the amount of tree climbing on thin vines of speculation that the media types are doing in this case.. that someone wouldn't or still may not take that angle.

By making this strong statement.. it is Rodgers word that he is among the rest of the world which wanted to believe Braun but was left disappointed that his words now appear ever so hollow.

I think one has to at the very least create a level of distance from Braun publicly.. stating the truth (if that is the case) is probably the best policy at the moment. IMO.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

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