nerdmann
12 years ago
Sitting on my ass with a broken leg all summer.

Just checking out some game films from last year. Tell you what.

There were ALOT of dropped INTs last year.

Also, Arodge didn't connect on those deep "jump balls" like they did in '11. Might be due to the S's hanging deep.

Starks runs tough. We've had the "Big 5" WRs for a few years, I could see us carrying a "Big 5" RBs this year. Or, Ted could really get something in a trade at this position. I like our depth.

I've talked plenty of shit about Kuhn, but damn. He had a great open field tackle against Devin Hester on a punt return. It was early in the year though, I think he faded down the stretch.

Oh yeah, pass interference rules are RUINING THE GAME.

One more thing. The grass at Lambeau SUCKS SHIT. Tramon fell down in the Bears game I'm watching, leaving Marshall wide open in the end zone. Marshall dropped it of course, but players are constantly falling down on that crap. It's FIELD TURF. Natural grass with rubber bullshit weaved in. DO NOT LIKE IT. This team has enough injuries without that kind of bullshit. Get rid of it.
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12 years ago
There were a lot of drops.
They had 5 RB a few years ago so it is not out of the question.
Kuhn certainly gives his all. It is unfortunate his all is not All Pro caliber. His effort usually is.
I hate the soft PI rules.
The "grass" looks pretty in December and January. I prefer the old muddy fields that they had up through the 80's and 90's. The NFL hates it and how it looks on tv. They don't care if someone falls or pulls up lame.
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play2win
12 years ago
We went light in terms of numbers at both OL and DL last year, and that killed us. They are going to have to keep less of one or more positions to help balance this out. I felt we had too many WRs, TEs, and DBs last season.

Games are won in the trenches.

This is the heart of tough times during the offseason for us avid Packers fans. I can't talk about the grass... Ayeeee!
steveishere
12 years ago

We went light in terms of numbers at both OL and DL last year, and that killed us. They are going to have to keep less of one or more positions to help balance this out. I felt we had too many WRs, TEs, and DBs last season.

Games are won in the trenches.

This is the heart of tough times during the offseason for us avid Packers fans. I can't talk about the grass... Ayeeee!

Originally Posted by: play2win 



The #s of players kept on the lines didn't really matter very much it was the low quality of player. It's not like all of the players were loaded up with too many snaps they had a decent rotation on the d-line and the only time back ups should play on the o-line is from injury. Games are won in the trenches by having good players in the trenches not by having 4 or 5 average guys sitting on the sideline.
play2win
12 years ago
steve, I agree somewhat. Our talent level on the DL was about 3 deep with Raji, Pickett and Neal. No one else offered anything close to significant. We needed a real rotation, and had no one behind Raji. You can't have a rotation on your DL when you only keep 5 or 6... and only 3 are good. I expected more out of Wilson, Worthy and Daniels. Neal wasn't available for the first quarter of the season. We started with only 5 DL. That was light. (Oh, wait, we had Philip Merling, who had a whole 3 tackles in 3 games).

As for the OL, Barclay did a nice job filling in for Bulaga. EDS played better than Saturday. Lang had to fight through injuries to stay on the field, with no one else to take up that slack. We could have used another, and usually keep 8 or 9 OL. Last year we started with 7 on the 53.
nerdmann
12 years ago

steve, I agree somewhat. Our talent level on the DL was about 3 deep with Raji, Pickett and Neal. No one else offered anything close to significant. We needed a real rotation, and had no one behind Raji. You can't have a rotation on your DL when you only keep 5 or 6... and only 3 are good. I expected more out of Wilson, Worthy and Daniels. Neal wasn't available for the first quarter of the season. We started with only 5 DL. That was light.

As for the OL, Barclay did a nice job filling in for Bulaga. EDS played better than Saturday. Lang had to fight through injuries to stay on the field, with no one else to take up that slack. We could have used another, and usually keep 8 or 9 OL. Last year we started with 7 on the 53.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yeah, say what you want, but I feel like our depth came through for us last year, esp on the Oline.

We all thought we were DOOMED with Barclay. LOL
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OlHoss1884
12 years ago
I was much more worried about the DL last year with the suspensions and injuries going into the season. I feel much better about this year. I knew the OL would have issues as well but Barclay didn't worry me so much...I think the first play I saw from him was the great block on the fake fg against the Bears early in the season and I wasn't surprised he turned out to be serviceable by the end of the year.

This year I feel better about both units and MUCH better about the offense in general which will help the defense play even better. Don't forget that, while the defense was much maligned last year, they were rated 11th while the offense was 13th.
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steveishere
12 years ago

steve,
As for the OL, Barclay did a nice job filling in for Bulaga. EDS played better than Saturday. Lang had to fight through injuries to stay on the field, with no one else to take up that slack. We could have used another, and usually keep 8 or 9 OL. Last year we started with 7 on the 53.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Whoever they would have kept to make 7 was on the practice squad anyways. It would have done no good to kick another guy off the 53 and add a practice squad quality o-lineman just to say you have 7. All that accomplishes is it kicks a guy who was supposedly more deserving off the 53 man roster. If they needed that 7th lineman he was there for the taking all year on the practice squad. Same thing with the defensive line. Would it have really done more good if they had Merling and Muir/Hargrove on the 53 the whole year than the guys that they had?
DarkaneRules
12 years ago
Man I remember being all about some Muir in the pre-season. Guess that's why I am not in a front office job. I thought the guy held the point pretty well. But alas we had pickett and raji, so he didn't win out in the numbers game to my knowledge.

The more I think about it; the more this pre-season is about the offensive line.
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

Good article just posted.

The fact that the starters have been announced is only a plus.

The Vets can concentrate on their new roles and to help getting the young guys up to speed.

Once training camp rolls around later this month, Sitton’s job will be to make sure they’re ready — paying the same courtesy to the rookies and youngsters as previous Packers linemen bestowed upon him before he permanently supplanted Jason Spitz at right guard in 2009.

“Everybody gets hurt,” Sitton said. “It’s a part of this league — we need seven, eight guys who are able to play. One of my roles this year is to step up and be a leader, and teach them up and hopefully get a couple young guys ready to play.”

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20130711/PKR01/307110313?nclick_check=1 
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