Laser Gunns
11 years ago
Nooooooooooooo!

I've been a Bish fan since he laid out that Jag in preseason..

rooted for him to start forever!

then only 2 years in... this...


sad face.

Bishop smash! 

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Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
dfosterf
11 years ago
I don't like it, but our defense was awful, so many must pay. They played poorly, as a unit, for several years. Ted invested a great deal (imo) to get a great unit. He failed to get one. Maybe he can fix it in the 2014 draft. 😆 Maybe our hopes will survive and spring eternal... these are all possibilities...

Maybe I'm right and this model does not work. I don't like getting rid of Bishop. He's the only one I liked out of all those wasted draft picks. Almost incredidible, how bad it has been, at that position...draft-pick-wise...
Dexter_Sinister
11 years ago
The pass D was better without him.

Ranked 4th in passer rating allowed last year.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
play2win
11 years ago
I'm a big Desmond Bishop fan, but from a pure business standpoint, this makes some sense. They are playing the odds on whether or not he can return healthy and as effective as prior to the injury, and as much as I want the old Bish back, I can see how they arrived at this decision.

The guy knows how to play. Tough loss for GB.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?
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play2win
11 years ago

"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Absolutely. Ted has a strong history of letting his guys test the market to determine their true value. And, he's apparently OK with losing a Des Bishop coming off a career threatening injury should MIN decide again to overpay.
steveishere
11 years ago
Read some interesting tweets by Zach Kruse  from cheeseheadtv.com

I found an interesting history on ruptured hamstrings in the NFL from a study in the American Journal of Orthopedics



AJO looked at 10 hamstring ruptures in the NFL from 1990-2008. Nine of 10 returned, but only five of 10 returned to play more than one game.



Two of the 10 returned and soon after suffered other serious injury to the same leg (Achilles tendon tear, another ruptured hamstring)



AJO's finding on ruptured hamstring in the NFL: "This injury is a marker for elite-level physical deterioration.

play2win
11 years ago

Read some interesting tweets by Zach Kruse  from cheeseheadtv.com





Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Wow. Thanks steve! That's a good find. Career ender...
DakotaT
11 years ago

"Bishop said in a phone interview that the team never discussed the idea of him taking a pay cut, saying only that they would check back with him down the road if he were released and didn't find work elsewhere. "


I need someone to make sense of this for me. No, we won't offer you a lower deal, but hey if no one else wants you, then we can talk? Is that just an angle to get him on the dirt cheap?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well, they just saved 3. whatever million in cap space that they can now use to lock up Raji, Burnett, and Shields. Bishop is a plodder run stuffing inside linebacker who lacks the athleticism to cover the new age tight ends in a passing league. They'll check back with him later if he hasn't been picked up by anybody else yet. That means they've done him a favor to catch on with another team, and if he can't do so - the Packers will bring him back to training camp. Now was that so hard?
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Now was that so hard?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I should smack you.


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