MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

Sometimes the NFL's off-season does crazy things to analysts and fans alike and in the Green Bay Packers' case this year, it seems to be the hybrid role that's being carved out for Green Bay defensive end Mike Neal. In the 2013 organized team activities (OTAs), Neal was seen playing a few snaps at outside [...]

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nerdmann
11 years ago
He can still cover better than Hawk or bishop.
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play2win
11 years ago
Well, I like that Capers is finding some room to experiment and innovate with a hybrid player. Great idea to keep offenses guessing without changing personnel. I'm glad he has the tools to work with this season, and this ought to benefit Neal greatly.
beast
11 years ago

Well, I like that Capers is finding some room to experiment and innovate with a hybrid player. Great idea to keep offenses guessing without changing personnel. I'm glad he has the tools to work with this season, and this ought to benefit Neal greatly.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I like experimenting as long as you can pull the plug on a failing one.

I think the idea of Neal at OLB was floated by an unnamed inside source in an article 2 or year 3 years ago and I loved it. Because I think he's better run stopper and pass rusher than the other OLBers not named Matthews (at the time). And honestly other than maybe adding Perry to that list the same might be true today. So I still like the idea.

Of course you probably won't be able to leave him in man coverage but zone coverage might be alright with help over the top. He ran a faster 20 yard time than Bishop, Moses and tied Hawk's time.

And Capers did seem to use more cover 2 defense last year which would help with coverage over the top. So I think it all fits... my only question is why didn't they do this earlier? I mean they could of used help there in years past as well, even more so when Matthews gets he's yearly leg injury that he tries to fight through.
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play2win
11 years ago

I like experimenting as long as you can pull the plug on a failing one.

I think the idea of Neal at OLB was floated by an unnamed inside source in an article 2 or year 3 years ago and I loved it. Because I think he's better run stopper and pass rusher than the other OLBers not named Matthews (at the time). And honestly other than maybe adding Perry to that list the same might be true today. So I still like the idea.

Of course you probably won't be able to leave him in man coverage but zone coverage might be alright with help over the top. He ran a faster 20 yard time than Bishop, Moses and tied Hawk's time.

And Capers did seem to use more cover 2 defense last year which would help with coverage over the top. So I think it all fits... my only question is why didn't they do this earlier? I mean they could of used help there in years past as well, even more so when Matthews gets he's yearly leg injury that he tries to fight through.

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Probably because Neal had such a fucked up start to last season with the suspension, and the injury the season before. I like this trial run too, and it will be interesting to see if Neal and Capers can make this effective. Love the idea of some beef up front in base with a massive rover at OLB in Neal on some downs. This has the potential to be really good. Has the potential to be the inverse too, and completely suck. Hopefully, it works out well. I'd love to see it work, see it in action.
Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
I'm really liking this because if nothing else it shows the coaching on this team is trying new things and always looking for an edge. If this holds up into the regular season, it'll be real interesting to see a pass rush with Neal tweaning with the different looks and personnel packages Capers can come up with.
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play2win
11 years ago
It sounds like Mike Neal is taking to this transition with a great attitude, and is accepting the challenge after some initial shock. This could be really good, and I am guessing we may know more after this week of mandatory minicamp.

I was a little concerned that he wasn't all in trying this, but a recent article that I read (sorry, I don't have a link) sounds way more encouraging.

What I wonder about is will he be an additional LB with 2 down linemen? That, to me, sounds promising to keep opposing offenses guessing. Datone Jones will be the guy that makes this all possible if it turns out to be effective, along with the acceptance and athleticism of Neal himself. Can't wait to see it.
beast
11 years ago

What I wonder about is will he be an additional LB with 2 down linemen? That, to me, sounds promising to keep opposing offenses guessing. Datone Jones will be the guy that makes this all possible if it turns out to be effective, along with the acceptance and athleticism of Neal himself. Can't wait to see it.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Yeah I've been guessing he's going to be a LB in the nickel packages but he could also do the physical close to the line role Perry played some last year and ether way it frees up Matthews/Perry more so they can get a breather and/or be more creative with all of them on the field.

Also in a couple of years they very well could do the same with Datone Jones. That might be a very interesting pass rush package.

DL: Raji and Daniels

LB: Neal, Matthaws, Perry, Jones

CB: Shields, Hayward and House

S: Burnett and ___


That's a lot of pass rushers all at once. They should be able to get pressure.

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play2win
11 years ago

Yeah I've been guessing he's going to be a LB in the nickel packages but he could also do the physical close to the line role Perry played some last year and ether way it frees up Matthews/Perry more so they can get a breather and/or be more creative with all of them on the field.

Also in a couple of years they very well could do the same with Datone Jones. That might be a very interesting pass rush package.

DL: Raji and Daniels

LB: Neal, Matthaws, Perry, Jones

CB: Shields, Hayward and House

S: Burnett and ___


That's a lot of pass rushers all at once. They should be able to get pressure.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Interesting. And, it fits the "bigger, faster" criteria we went into this draft with for adding talent to/changing the D as a whole. Beast, can you imagine what a real, true stud ILB could do in this system? That's why I am really hopeful with all the players we have assembled there. I love what is happening with our D.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Interesting. And, it fits the "bigger, faster" criteria we went into this draft with for adding talent to/changing the D as a whole. Beast, can you imagine what a real, true stud ILB could do in this system? That's why I am really hopeful with all the players we have assembled there. I love what is happening with our D.

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Wonder why they're not trying Neal on the inside.
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