texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I don't disagree with you about Coleman, just not yet. As for Harrell, much worse QBs than him have started in the NFL, and I don't mean just a game or two. A guy named Dilfer comes to mind. MAYBE he is a career backup, but you say it like it's gospel.
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beast
11 years ago

You guys don't get it.

Harrell is the long-term backup. Coleman is the one we develop and trade for a 2 or 3.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That would be interesting... but do you really see Mike McCarthy keeping 3 QBs on the main roster?

I think it's possible but very doubtful about it happening.
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

That would be interesting... but do you really see Mike McCarthy keeping 3 QBs on the main roster?

I think it's possible but very doubtful about it happening.

Originally Posted by: beast 




I may be wrong, but I don't think Harrell is able to be put on the PS this year.


That alone will keep him #2, Coleman will be put back on the PS.

Now if another team shows interest in Coleman and it gets to the point where they make him an offer, Ted might be forced to make a decision whether to keep Harrell, or Coleman.

I agree, don't see 3qb's on final 53 man roster.
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DakotaT
11 years ago
There'll be an open competition for the #2 quarterback, and I think Coleman has a shot because of the strength of his arm. Noodle armed quarterbacks can only lead stacked teams to wins, not the other way around. So maybe it will come down to Harrell having a cerebral thing for Mike McCarthy choice in backup. The best thing to do is showcase one of them in preseason and hope to sucker some team into giving up a pick in next year's draft.

Emergency quarterbacks can be brought out of retirement, but if Rodgers goes down, our season is FUBAR anyway so why the concern about backups?

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nerdmann
11 years ago

There'll be an open competition for the #2 quarterback, and I think Coleman has a shot because of the strength of his arm. Noodle armed quarterbacks can only lead stacked teams to wins, not the other way around. So maybe it will come down to Harrell having a cerebral thing for Mike McCarthy choice in backup. The best thing to do is showcase one of them in preseason and hope to sucker some team into giving up a pick in next year's draft.

Emergency quarterbacks can be brought out of retirement, but if Rodgers goes down, our season is FUBAR anyway so why the concern about backups?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I agree that Coleman probably needs one more year under Mike before we can trade him and get some good value.

However, this IS a stacked team. With these new RBs, we don't NEED a guy who can throw deep all the time. I've actually made the case that a shorter, higher percentage offense might even (believe it or now) be better.

Not saying Harrell is better than Rodgers. It's just that it would force Mike to adhere to fundamentals.

But yes, Harrell's less likely to be picked up than Coleman if released. It seemed to me last preseason that they kind of hid Coleman from public view so other teams wouldn't have film on him.
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beast
11 years ago

I'm guessing Coleman will be the Packers #2 QB or be on another team ether via claiming him on waivers or that other team contacting the Packers to trade a later round pick for him like the Jets did with OG Caleb Schlauderaff
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I'm guessing Coleman will be the Packers #2 QB or be on another team ether via claiming him on waivers or that other team contacting the Packers to trade a later round pick for him like the Jets did with OG Caleb Schlauderaff

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He could beat out Arodge.
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beast
11 years ago

He could beat out Arodge.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Heck you might even be able to beat out, Arodge (who ever that is)....

Anyways it will be interesting to see who wins the back-up QB behind RODGERS... as well as all of the other battles including RT, RB, S, CB, ILB, DL and maybe lots more...
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go.pack.go.
11 years ago
To be somewhat fair...whenever Harrell has played in the preseason, the OLine in front of him has been awful. He has literally had no time to throw. And the talent around him hasn't been the best either. But hey, that's the life of a backup QB in preseason I guess. I'm not saying he would be any good, but I wouldn't mind seeing him play with the first stringers in a game this preseason.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

To be somewhat fair...whenever Harrell has played in the preseason, the OLine in front of him has been awful. He has literally had no time to throw. And the talent around him hasn't been the best either. But hey, that's the life of a backup QB in preseason I guess. I'm not saying he would be any good, but I wouldn't mind seeing him play with the first stringers in a game this preseason.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



He'll have some depth with which to work this year.

In fact, this could very well be the best TC ever! I'm excited about it.
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