Zero2Cool
11 years ago

McMillian runs a 4.3 iirc. Then there's the issue of Woody's repeated shoulder breaks.

Still he wants that pick six record, so he'll be playing somewhere.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



iirc? did you hiccup while typing lol

Scouts said 4.4, either way, I think that is faster than Charles Woodson. It'd be best for the Packers if Jerron McMillian erases the thought of looking into resigning Woodson.


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Jlapp
11 years ago

Stop with the facts!!!!! They are irrelevant.

This crop of FA veterans got caught in a bad cycle as far as signing the big dollar contract.

The salary cap is not moving until 2015, teams really have to watch who they sign and how much to spend.

There will be a team that signs Woody if and when there comes a need due to injury or such.

As far as him returning to The Packers, if Ted and Mike see they need a veteran and Woody is still available, I am betting he would be the first to get a call.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



The new CBA certainly doesn't help things either. Before teams had no real reason to hold onto cap space during the year and could afford a 1 year contract for an older player. Now signing a veteran like that is money that you can't rollover into the next year.
sschind
11 years ago

Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah but that's one really really big pound.
PackerTraxx
11 years ago

iirc? did you hiccup while typing lol

Scouts said 4.4, either way, I think that is faster than Charles Woodson. It'd be best for the Packers if Jerron McMillian erases the thought of looking into resigning Woodson.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The best I saw for a forty time on McMillian was 4.4something, 4.46? That would still make him one of the fastest safeties. If he can erase all thoughts of Woody that would bode well for us, but if they had to bring Woody back so be it, I would like to see him get the pick six record.
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Dulak
11 years ago
wish we would resign woody for even just 1 year ... if he would take a pay cut
warhawk
11 years ago
The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.


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earthquake
11 years ago

The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



Yeah, have to agree, only way I see Woodson back is some bad injury situation where one or two important guys in the secondary go down. Otherwise you're signing an old, slow veteran player to be a backup, but not play special teams. Backup DBs get a lot of playing time on special teams, so if he can't do that, and isn't going to start, even at the vet min his value to the team has to be fairly low.

I really like Woodson too, I just don't see it.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

Charles Woodson - 6' 1" 202 lbs

Jerron McMillian - 5' 11" 203 lbs

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



[mfing]

I figured Woodson for about 180 lbs. Thanks for making a dumbass out of me. [grin1]
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

The question is who goes if Woody comes back? Your talking about players that should benefit greatly from the PT they got last year at a position I think everyone agrees takes a couple years to be able to grasp.

So you dump one for a player that MAY give you some help for a year IF he can even stay on the field? Or, do you cut Bush or Ross who will probably do more on ST's than Woodson can give you in the Dbackfield?

I think too many people here want to cut these 2nd year players who were really out there as rookies just trying to figure out what the hell was going on.

The way this staff works I say that won't happen and that the only way Woodson comes back here is if one of the young Db's gets hurt and he's still around.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 




I won't speak for others, but the scenario I was speaking of would be if there happened to be injuries to these guys in TC.

I don't think anyone wants any of the guys who played last year cut, but if the situation came up where The Packers needed another db, Woody would be the first called.

The Packers didn't draft a S, I think they did sign a UDFA S, but if you think about it, Woody's roster spot hasn't been filled by anyone, and if he was resigned despite no injuries, he wouldn't be taking a spot from anyone who was on the roster last year, he would just be taking back his spot on the roster.

Again, the only scenario I see he comes back is if he is needed because of multiple unjuries to the safety position.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

I won't speak for others, but the scenario I was speaking of would be if there happened to be injuries to these guys in TC.

I don't think anyone wants any of the guys who played last year cut, but if the situation came up where The Packers needed another db, Woody would be the first called.

The Packers didn't draft a S, I think they did sign a UDFA S, but if you think about it, Woody's roster spot hasn't been filled by anyone, and if he was resigned despite no injuries, he wouldn't be taking a spot from anyone who was on the roster last year, he would just be taking back his spot on the roster.

Again, the only scenario I see he comes back is if he is needed because of multiple unjuries to the safety position.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Well they did take a corner in the draft and they can keep Bush and move him to one of the backup safety positions. I'm not too concerned about the secondary, just want to see more improvement out of the safeties. Considered Woodson a temporary fix last season, not a solution to losing Collins.
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