nerdmann
12 years ago

Eh, Lacy may bust or he may not. I dont think he will. He is undoubtedly a talented player. At the position he was drafted he is well worth the risk, imo. No doubt about it. He's going to bring some toughness to the Packers running game and will be able to split the pressure with J. Franklin. Boom or bust, maybe, but im glad Ted Thompson took the risk at the position Lacy was drafted.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Everybody knows that Aaron's never going to stop throwing deep. These RBs are gonna have some space to run. Should be interesting. I know I'll be watching.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
TheKanataThrilla
12 years ago

Huge injury history. Missed 1 game in 2 years.

So, its OK to roast Lacy for going soft in his Pro Day even though he was nursing a hammy? The same injury that Clay Matthews has fought through? He's a RB! His game is as much about speed as Matthews.

To me, Eddie Lacy was just being responsible. Smart.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1562685-how-worried-should-nfl-teams-be-about-eddie-lacys-injured-hamstring 

Dude suffered ONE injury at Alabama, a foot injury in 2011 after rushing for 61 yds and a TD against Arkansas, sitting out the next game.

Played every game in 2012.

Huge injury history.

Originally Posted by: play2win 





I didn't say huge injury history. I said injury history. At the running back position a hamstring injury is a concern which was the point of my post. I think many people are concerned with Clay's hammy injury as well given the large contract we signed him too. I don't think the guy is going to suck I am just concerned we may have a player that may not live up to the first round grade everyone gave him. I think he was value where we got him. I was not on board with using our first pick on him. Honestly I think Franklin may end up being the better back out of the two for us. We'll see... I hope it makes defences respect our run and Aaron shreds them with even worse his arm.
Gaycandybacon
12 years ago

I didn't say huge inury history. I said injury history. At the running back position a hamstring injury is a concern which was the point of my post. I think many people are concerned with Clay's hammy injury as well given the large contract we signed him too. I don't think the guy is going to suck I am just concerned we may have a player that may not live up to the first round grade everyone gave him. I think he was value where we got him. I was not on board with using our first pick on him. Honestly I think Franklin may end up being the better back out of the two for us. We'll see... I hope it makes defences respect our run and Aaron shreds them with even worse his arm.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



As long as MM doesn't spam Lacy carries, and give him, Harris, and Franklin shared carries he will keep injure free. Like everyone said we'll have to see, the guys a big strong player, he can play through injures, I think that's part of the reason Teddy took him. If we had injure riddled backs i'd be concerned. Only Running backs that have injure history on this team is Starks and Green and they'll be fighting for jobs.

The Packers wanted depth on this team. That's what they got in the draft. Got a little stronger and a little faster at the RB position. It's gonna help us in the long run. If we can get an effective running game going it will only help our defense and hurt the opposing teams.
play2win
12 years ago

I didn't say huge inury history. I said injury history. At the running back position a hamstring injury is a concern which was the point of my post. I think many people are concerned with Clay's hammy injury as well given the large contract we signed him too. I don't think the guy is going to suck I am just concerned we may have a player that may not live up to the first round grade everyone gave him. I think he was value where we got him. I was not on board with using our first pick on him. Honestly I think Franklin may end up being the better back out of the two for us. We'll see... I hope it makes defences respect our run and Aaron shreds them with even worse his arm.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 




Yeah. KanataTrilla, I got you. I don't want you to think I was addressing you specifically, but I didn't communicate that well. My bad.

I was more frustrated by the large number of people mentioning his injury history, which is, in fact, quite minimal.

Lacy has displayed quite a bit of toughness in his two years at Alabama. I don't automatically seeing that changing because he's now with the Packers.

I like both of our new RBs, equally. They both bring different styles that I believe will complement each other well. I cannot wait to see this throughout this season. That's going to be big fun to watch!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
12 years ago

All I think is that Lacy has had injury problems throughout most of his college career, which has always gotten a lot of attention because Alabama relied heavily upon him after Ingram and then Richardson left. When Lacy was the #2 RB after Richardson he still ran for some 600+ yards.

When he was the #1 RB he more than doubled that and that was after the initial instance of the toe injury. The guy gets injured but keeps playing, there have been a lot of great NFL players that had that same demeanor.

As far as the Alabama Offensive line, analysts were not convinced of their invincibility at the beginning of the 2011 or 2012 seasons. It's a combination of both the line and the RBs that make Alabama what it is.

Lacy will play, and put the work in to succeed. He's already shown that otherwise he would have missed far more games in his college career than he actually did from all those "injuries".

Originally Posted by: Quid2Facis 



It is interesting to see how some people really don't care for Lacy and assume the worst even before he has been to TC. Others see the numbers he put up and can see he will do the same or at least similar in the pros.

I figure between Lacy and Franklin one of the two of them will have a solid season and I don't care which one it is. Personally I am willing to wait a game or two before I write off Lacy and his injury history. But then I stuck by Harrell too long so what do I know.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

When did Eddie Lacy piss in your Cornflakes?

Jesus Christ!

And... Johnathan Franklin had 282 ATT 1734 YDS and 13 TDs

Lacy had 4 more TDs, a better average per carry in 80 fewer ATT. So Bama ran a lot. They were good at it. Who cares?

Seems like a lot of nit picking to me.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I think you need to relax. All I did was post the running back stats for Alabama out of curiosity. You do realize that having less carries usually means a higher yards per carry, right? That's why when stats are shown for yards per carry they say "250 carries or more" or something similar.

Random bit of information: T.J. Yeldon ran a 4.3 forty yard dash.

I've attached UCLA stats too.

It's not that I hate Eddie Lacy or anything like, so not sure why you blew up. Alabama ran a lot because they had a NFL OL against a College OL, lol. That's my point. The Packers OL just doesn't open those kind of holes. I like Lacy's footwork and size. I just don't think he's the end all to the Packers running game. It is not nitpicking to have an opinion.

And MY opinion is when all things considered, Franklin will be more important to the Packers than Lacy.



It is interesting to see how some people really don't care for Lacy and assume the worst even before he has been to TC. Others see the numbers he put up and can see he will do the same or at least similar in the pros.

I figure between Lacy and Franklin one of the two of them will have a solid season and I don't care which one it is. Personally I am willing to wait a game or two before I write off Lacy and his injury history. But then I stuck by Harrell too long so what do I know.

Originally Posted by: wpr 




I wouldn't write anyone off yet, nor do I think anyone has. I think people are sharing their opinions of each player. If Eddie Lacy runs for 1,200, great, my opinion will change.  UCLA2013.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
12 years ago

I think you need to relax. All I did was post the running back stats for Alabama out of curiosity. You do realize that having less carries usually means a higher yards per carry, right? That's why when stats are shown for yards per carry they say "250 carries or more" or something similar.

Random bit of information: T.J. Yeldon ran a 4.3 forty yard dash.

I've attached UCLA stats too.

It's not that I hate Eddie Lacy or anything like, so not sure why you blew up. Alabama ran a lot because they had a NFL OL against a College OL, lol. That's my point. The Packers OL just doesn't open those kind of holes. I like Lacy's footwork and size. I just don't think he's the end all to the Packers running game. It is not nitpicking to have an opinion.

And MY opinion is when all things considered, Franklin will be more important to the Packers than Lacy.






I wouldn't write anyone off yet, nor do I think anyone has. I think people are sharing their opinions of each player. If Eddie Lacy runs for 1,200, great, my opinion will change.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I enjoy reading the opinions of others. They should share them. I have tended to be a little leery of Lacy. Not as much as some others. I feel a lot better about him since GB hedged their bet with Franklin. Certainly I am glad they didn't acquire him in the first round. That said I don't know what he can do yet so I wait.

But while waiting for the results for all the players to come in we do have to do something don't we?

UserPostedImage
Mucky Tundra
12 years ago
I think in terms of major injuries he'll be fine. It's all the small nagging ones that will always bothering him like Brain Westbrook of the Eagles who was permanently on the injured list as Probable. After year 5 or 6 is when the wheels will start coming off. But by that point with him and Franklin leading the way there should be about 3 or 4 Super Bowl victories by the time that happens. [grin1]
Under Construction!
play2win
12 years ago
There have been a good number of posts about Lacy closing with the words, "I hope I'm wrong..." Pretty much slamming the guy for Alabama having a good OL to run behind, having multiple 1000 yds running backs, having a hamstring injury at the combine and his pro day, him being " out of shape," having the toe fusion, questioning his willingness to play, etc. "Bust..."

I didn't make that up.

Just kind of blew me away when he was regarded as THE top RB in this draft. He certainly had no problems starting and playing well in all but 1 game over 2 years, helping his team to win a National Championship.

For some reason, Eddie Lacy seemed to not get a whole lot of respect in quite a lot of comments here and elsewhere. The guy has proven himself to be one of the toughest RBs in this draft. If fears about his toe fusion or a pulled hammy kept other teams from drafting him, well thank God for that!

How many other players we just drafted have had their injuries scrutinized so heavily? None.

Eddie Lacy seems like a gamer, and I wish him well in tearing through our opponent's secondaries!
steveishere
12 years ago
http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/metrics-breakdown-top-running-backs-tier-1 

"What I’ve done is sample their games and count the number of plays in which the running back was not touched or did not have to make a football move (juke, spin, etc.) within five yards of the line of scrimmage. This is to measure how many “free” touches each RB got."

"Lacy’s low 4.6% free carries doesn’t mean Alabama’s O-line was bad; Chance Warmack and Fluker alone should quell that criticism. It’s most likely a result of tougher SEC run defenses that swarmed faster to the ball."
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (10h) : Packers LT Jordan Morgan did not allow a single pressure across 23 pass-blocking snaps vs. Jets last night, per PFF
Mucky Tundra (14h) : With buckeye and the reasonable couple, we're currently sitting at 10
buckeyepackfan (15h) : Just posted to re-up on our FFL.
Zero2Cool (21h) : If healthy after, then thats all I care. Well, no drops would be nice
wpr (22h) : I made it through the 1st Q.
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Just gotta figure out how.
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Could have been a worse start, so there is that.
beast (10-Aug) : Yeah, someone tell the Packers football season has started, seems like they weren't ready for it
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : Sooooooo many penalties
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : It may only be preseason, but this game is a trip to the dentist
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do bad -- FREAK OUT!!!!!!
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do good -- eh only preseason
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Well that half was fun
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Great, zayne is down
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : 13 minutes away from kickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkoffff
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Had Celebration of Life for my uncle up north. wicked rain hope it dont come south
Mucky Tundra (9-Aug) : THE GREEN BAY PACKERS ARE PLAYING FOOTBALL TONIGHT!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!!!
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Woo-hoo
TheKanataThrilla (9-Aug) : NFL Network is broadcasting the game tonight, but not in Canada. Not sure why as no local television is showing the game.
beast (8-Aug) : But the Return from IR designations had to be applied by the 53 man cutdown.
beast (8-Aug) : It's a new rule, so it's not clear, but my understanding was that they could be IR'd at any time
Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : *had to be IRed at 53
Mucky Tundra (8-Aug) : beast, I thought the designate return from IR players had to be IR at cutdowns to 53, not before
beast (8-Aug) : It's a brand new rule, either last season or this season, prior, all pre-season IRs were done for the season
beast (8-Aug) : But the Packers would have to use one for their return from IR spots on him, when they cut down to 53.
beast (8-Aug) : I think the NFL recently changed the IR rules, so maybe the season might not be over for OL Glover.
Zero2Cool (8-Aug) : Packers star Howton, first NFLPA prez, dies at 95 😔
dfosterf (8-Aug) : Apparently it is too complicated for several to follow your simple instructions, but I digress
dfosterf (8-Aug) : Zero- Did you see what I posted about Voice of Reason and his wife? She posted over at fleaflicker that they are both "In"
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Well, not crazy, it makes sense. Crazy I didn't notice/find it earlier
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : it's crazy how one stored procedure to get data bogged everything down for speed here
dfosterf (7-Aug) : to herd cats or goldfish without a bowl. They reminded me of the annual assembly of our fantasy league
dfosterf (7-Aug) : out on a field trip, outfitting them with little yellow smocks. Most of the little folk were well behaved, but several were like trying
dfosterf (7-Aug) : Yesterday my wife and I spent the afternoon on the waterfront here in Alexandria, Va. A daycare company took about 15 three/four year olds
wpr (7-Aug) : seems faster. yay
dfosterf (7-Aug) : Wife of reason posted on the in/out thread on fleaflicker that both she and vor are in
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : This page was generated in 0.135 seconds.
Mucky Tundra (7-Aug) : Tbh, I can never tell the difference in speed unless it's completely shitting the bed
Zero2Cool (7-Aug) : Sure does feel like site is more snappy
Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : I thought that was the Lions OL
Mucky Tundra (6-Aug) : Travis Glover placed on IR; seasons over for him
Zero2Cool (6-Aug) : found bad sql in database, maybe site faster now?
dfosterf (5-Aug) : I'm going to call that a good move.
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Packers sign CB Corey Ballentine
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : I'm not sure how to kill the draft order just yet so it's not so confusing.
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : *to be able
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : and because it's not a dynasty league (which makes a lot more sense to be ability to trade picks)
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Oh I know; I was just exploring and it blew my mind that you could trade picks because of the whole reordering thing
Mucky Tundra (4-Aug) : Zero, I think I preferred my offer: your 1st for my 15th rounder
Zero2Cool (4-Aug) : Keep in mind, we do a draft reorder once all members locked in
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
8h / Around The NFL / packerfanoutwest

15h / Fantasy Sports Talk / buckeyepackfan

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

10-Aug / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

10-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

8-Aug / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

8-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

3-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.