What Does the Packers Draft and Development Philosophy Mean to You?· Page 4

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

Well, I do know that 2 sacks are not better than 6...

Originally Posted by: play2win

lol nice Apple to Orange comparison there!

I believe a ILB in a 3 - 4 is far less asked to get sacks than a DE in a 4 - 3 :)

As for adding marquee talent, the hell the Packers don't! They certainly do! How do you think they got to Super Bowl? How do you think they ran up a 15 - 1 record? How many playoff appearances in a row?

What the Packers do NOT do is over pay for talent! And being a SMALL MARKET team with NO OWNER to bail them out ... I think it's a wise avenue to take. They have far less margin for error than say the Dallas Cowboys for example.

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#32

I don't think he is saying they are only one or two players away from winning a Championship, just that one or two FAs of high quality can help you to get there, taking pressure off of key areas that you normally fill with draft picks. For instance, we had a couple of scenarios where we had high calibre DTs, DEs, RBs and Ss looking for a new team this offseason. We didn't really play, so they went elsewhere. I would have loved to get one of them, maybe two of them, to allow a bit more freedom this draft, insuring our roster was truly complete.

We have so many holes, some bigger than others at some real need positions on this roster. One or two FA signings could have helped. They still may.

Originally Posted by: play2win

since I can only give you one applause point here is a second one.

By all means build through the draft but augment with decent FAs like Woodson and Pickett.
Uncle Teddy has already proven you can get good quality players without busting the bank on them.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#33

lol nice Apple to Orange comparison there!

I believe a ILB in a 3 - 4 is far less asked to get sacks than a DE in a 4 - 3 :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

You like that bro? I gotta ton of 'em for ya!!! 😆 😆 😆

Yeah, I hear what you are saying, but I think the big cat could have made the 3-4 transition, and might have been a nice addition. You were kind of hoping for that yourself weren't you?

Ah, well. I'm just a fan, and I'm happy to support the team and Ted's vision. I think he could do better, but he is pretty freaking good, as is. We are about to realize how good here with this draft, and the soon to be contract extension for the best QB on the planet.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#34

and for the record, I am not exactly thrilled with Brad Jones contract, much like I wasn't too thrilled with A.J. Hawk's when he signed it. I don't know what guaranteed money it has though so I can't gripe about it.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#35

Well, I do know that 2 sacks are not better than 6...

Originally Posted by: play2win

It is when comparing an ILB with a full time pass rusher who is surrounded by a ton of talent on the line with him.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: play2win

I would love for a pass rusher to fall out of the sky into the Packers lap. Thing is though, Osi (I assume that is 'big cat?') ... he's temperamental and if things aren't going his way, he throws a fit. Also, how is he gonna do with out Jason Pierre-Paul (sp), Justin Tuck, etc ... ? Packers only have Clay Matthews III and MAYBE Nick Perry.

If Osi signed the same contract, but incentive based ... I'd have been cool with that. The guaranteed cash of $5 million makes me less attracted to his addition when thinking he is a DE in a 4 - 3 and Packers would need him to play OLB or DE in a 3 - 4 ... which who knows, maybe he doesn't want to be in a 3 - 4?

There is so much to discuss on these because there are so many variables.

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

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