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11 years ago
Acme Packing Co  compares Morgan to Butler, Sharper and Collins. If he has a breakout year that would be awesome.

Morgan Burnett

Now we come to the subject of this whole discussion. Below we have Burnett's totals from his first three years compared to each of the other three safeties. Keep in mind that Burnett missed 12 games in his rookie year with a torn ACL, while Sharper and Butler did not start their rookie years.





Player 	    G 	GS 	Int FF Rec TDs Tackles
Burnett 	36 	36 	6 	4 	3 	0 	245
Collins 	45 	45 	4 	4 	0 	1 	214
Sharper 	46 	32 	5 	1 	2 	3 	199
Butler 	    47 	31 	7 	3 	2 	0 	156

Burnett's stats for his first three years actually compare very positively to the other three safeties'. He did not start as many games as Collins, but he has more interceptions, total turnover plays, and tackles. He started more games than Sharper, but the "old" 42 was a critical backup who played a lot on defense his rookie season. That said, Burnett has exceeded his totals in every category except touchdowns. Butler's turnover totals are close to Burnett's but Morgan is a more active tackler at this point in his career.

Obviously, comparing the career trajectories of these different players is no guarantee that Burnett will have a breakout season in 2013. However, the fact that he compares so positively over his first three years to these other All-Pro caliber safeties certainly is a positive sign for him and should give all Packers fans hope that he will indeed be set up for success this season.


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beast
11 years ago

Honestly I think Burnett is a pro bowl SS. I think he lacks speed and maybe some other things at FS.

But I think this could be a break out year for Burnett because it's his second offseason knowing he's going to be a FS. Also McMillian could have his break out year... and McMillian has the potential and skill to play FS which would free up Burnett some more and GB could mix the roles up confusing the offense on which one is playing FS when and let Burnett play some FS and SS on different calls.
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nerdmann
11 years ago
Butler started out as a CB.

Collins' dad died his second year, and that slowed his development until his third year. He was still good, but he wasn't progressing as much. Spending time with his dad, who was dying of cancer.

I like Burnett though. Sky's the limit. I expect him to break out.
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Rockmolder
11 years ago

Honestly I think Burnett is a pro bowl SS. I think he lacks speed and maybe some other things at FS.

But I think this could be a break out year for Burnett because it's his second offseason knowing he's going to be a FS. Also McMillian could have his break out year... and McMillian has the potential and skill to play FS which would free up Burnett some more and GB could mix the roles up confusing the offense on which one is playing FS when and let Burnett play some FS and SS on different calls.

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Does there have to be a difference in Capers' scheme, though?

Safety is one of the positions where he appears to utilize the players the best way he can. Looking back over his career, he's appeared to be more of a guy who likes two FS-type safety, rather than a traditional SS/FS role difference. I feel like he changed that up a bit to best utilize Woodson's abilities, but I think that, with Burnett on one side and McMillian on the other, we'll see him revert back to a double FS type of style.

I think that Burnett won't become the all-pro we had in Collins, something I hoped and could see him become for when we drafted him, but I do think that he's not done progressing. Especially if McMillian gets his game going. Burnett will only benefit from some good safety play next to him from someone who will stay there, as well, so they can build up some familiarity.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
It's my understanding that the Packers under Capers do play a system where both Safeties are about the same role - usually by side of the field, as was said. The only thing I am concerned with in those stats is too many tackles - when Safeties need to make too many tackles, it's a sign the front seven isn't doing its job or the D is on the field too much or both, and that does kinda describe the Packers in recent years.

I like Burnet, but without extreme speed and without being a big hitter, I think he may have already reached his peak and plateaued - but that still ain't bad.
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