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dfosterf
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

Dom Capers on his job status to Mike:

If you bastards could keep us off the field awhile maybe we would be better on defense

This line continues to suck. We have zip squat in the running game, our QB runs for his life, gets blamed for trying to make a play, etc.

IT SUCKS! Wade & I have been trying to tell you for years that it sucks- many get that part- but you don't realize how important it is, imo

http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/james-campen/240e2dfa-4773-434b-8aa0-e6b67c649639 why is he still a coach?

We'd have won more superbowls if it did not, imo
We cannot aspire to greatness without an outstanding
offensive line.

This line sucks. Do you get how important this is?

Ted don't get 'em in FA (Saturday, lol) so he drafts 'em...

SF49ers did it effortlessly.

NOW anyone figuring out why I'm hatin' on Ted a little, lol?

WE NEED AN OFFENSIVE LINE THAT MATTERS. Get it? AHHHHHHHHH! Howlin' at the moon, yet again, lol

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Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

Line is not as big of problem as they are made out to be, 2 solid guards and a RT is pretty good. Saturday was a bust, no doubt. And Newhouse is not exactly tony moll, or Alan barbre.

Incompetent RBs, and McCarthy's play calling, are what is killing us.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!

dfosterf
Veteran Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

Show me the hole that the incompetent backs should have ran through the last 4 years. I submit that there has been no hole. MM is pulling a Dick Cheney. He will re-invent the friggin' hole he says he has, and he don't even have that.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

lol dfosterf saying he read your stuff ... dude can't read ... hilarious April Fool's joke!!

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

Our OL play has been at the very least suspect over the last few years. Especially last year. I believe it has WAY more to do with a poor C in Saturday and a HC who treats the running game as secondary in importance.

Make the run a more important part of your offense, just even out the pass/run ATT and even WITH Saturday we would have shown better. I think this is more on the coaching than anything. EDS to C or a new C altogether will be a huge improvement.

Really though, our greatest problem here is McCarthy.

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

Show me the hole that the incompetent backs should have ran through the last 4 years. I submit that there has been no hole. Mike McCarthy is pulling a Dick Cheney. He will re-invent the friggin' hole he says he has, and he don't even have that.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

Because finding 1 hole will prove me right?

Too easy. We have all seen the ignored cutback lanes. Do we have a mauler line? No. But there are plenty of oppourtunies that are left on the field.

Ryan Grant, Deshawn Wynn, Brandon Jackson, old Ahman Green, vernand Morency, James Starks, Alex Green, Cedric Benson.

Good list huh? There are the guys who (off the top of my head) we have started since 07.

How many of there guys are even on an NFL roster right now? I believe Jackson has had 1 lost season to IR, and not much else.

GB has devalued the RB position to the point where they believe that they can have sucsess by plugging in anybody they can put a uniform on. Which is not the case.
With the WR core losing depth, and the Oline being banged up, and our D full of holes, I'd like to see our picks spent elsewhere but at some point if we want to have a respectable running game we will need to invest in that position.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

Cedric Benson seemed like he was getting what was there every time. Starks was pretty good too. He could get to the corner.

As for Green, I thought he was learning to be patient playing off his blockers and to take what was there. My impression was that he learned alot from CedBen. Earlier in the season it seemed like he was trying to hit a home run on every play. He could still develop.

Starks too. He's a tall back, so he needs to run lower behind his pads in order to stay healthy.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Wade
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Newhouse: Improving. But average. Potential for ...??
Lang: Plateaued. Daryn Colledge II. Average.
Dietrich-Smith: Plateaued. Jason Spitz II. Average.
Sitton: All pro.
Bulaga: Improving. But average. Potential there.

Backups:
Barclay: Improving. Below average with some potential.
Sherrod: Who knows?
Datko: Who knows? Just a guy at this point.
Van Roten: Who knows? Just a guy at this point.
Hughes: Who? Who knows?
Gerhart: Who? Who knows?

Have I missed someone?

This is good enough?????

Seriously????

You need more than average + potential in your starters. Average is for back-ups.

Everyone raves about Thompson in the draft. To me, there are three parts to Thompson in the draft:

Skill positions: A. Above average as a GM. Well above average, even.
Defensive front 7: B-. Average as a GM. Some home runs (Matthews), some potential-but-inconsistent (Raji), some not-bad, not-great (Hawk), some guys that are just guys.
Offensive line: C-. Below average as a GM. One ginormous home-run (Sitton).

If you look at just at what he's done at WR and QB, Thompson is Stan Musial. If you look just at what he's done at OL, he's Dave Kingman.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

Packers haven't been back to the Super Bowl since Daryn Colledge was mistakenly not re-signed. Ted Thompson, my glare is aimed in your direction!

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#10

This line sucks. Do you get how important this is?

Ted don't get 'em in FA (Saturday, lol) so he drafts 'em...

SF49ers did it effortlessly.

NOW anyone figuring out why I'm hatin' on Ted a little, lol?

WE NEED AN OFFENSIVE LINE THAT MATTERS. Get it? AHHHHHHHHH! Howlin' at the moon, yet again, lol

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

Socrates, didn't San Francisco get most of their line with top 15 draft picks - if they did this effortlessly, then must have been dog shit for a long time. Your comparison is horrible but I agree with what you said. We've taken Bulaga and Sherrod with first rounders recently - it's unfair to say 🇹🇹 isn't trying. I would like to see an interior O-lineman taken with a top pick preferable at center and who is very intelligent.

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