nerdmann
11 years ago

Coleman sucks, all he cares about is throwing the deep ball because somehow that's going to eventually erase Rodgers and Favre from the record books.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



THAT, remains to be seen.

Everyone thought I was an asshole for calling for Favre's benching in the NFCC. I was like TOO COLD FOR YOU BRENT? MAYBE GO WARM UP IN THE LOCKER ROOM.
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Yerko
11 years ago

Coleman sucks, all he cares about is throwing the deep ball because somehow that's going to eventually erase Rodgers and Favre from the record books.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Beat nerdmann at his own game...brilliant.

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DoddPower
11 years ago

THAT, remains to be seen.

Everyone thought I was an asshole for calling for Favre's benching in the NFCC. I was like TOO COLD FOR YOU BRENT? MAYBE GO WARM UP IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Everyone?? It was obvious Favre was miserable in that game. That wasn't exactly an astute observation.

Porforis
11 years ago

THAT, remains to be seen.

Everyone thought I was an asshole for calling for Favre's benching in the NFCC. I was like TOO COLD FOR YOU BRENT? MAYBE GO WARM UP IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



After the whole dick texting thing I'm not sure that's something you want to ask him to do.
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I posted this in Packer Forum. It took me some time and calculating hahaha, so I will get double use and post it here too.

As great as Clay Matthews is, the supreme superstar of this team is Aaron Rodgers. Maybe they get the Matthews deal done first because his contract runs out a year early, but I sincerely hope both are wrapped up before this season starts. The four year thing suggested above seems too short term IMO. Favre got a ten year deal at I think an older age. I would like to see something at least that long term for Rodgers - and that would be truly historic $200 million being not even close; $300 million not out of the realm of possibility. As many say, the guaranteed money is what counts (Favre's deal kinda disproved that). I wouldn't be surprised if they GUARANTEE something like $100 million. Try this for Rodgers: $50 million bonus, $5 million next season, with $10, 12, 14, 17, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40 million - a total of $258 over ten years, maybe guarantee the first 5 seasons - $108 million. Too extreme? I don't think so. That's just a $10 million cap hit the first year and $5 million above the base all the other years. Try this for Matthews: $12 million bonus, $2 million base the first year, $7, 8, 9, 12, 15 million for years 2 - 6, maybe guarantee 3 or 4 of it - $17 or 26 million, a total $65 million over six years. His cap hit would only be $4 million the first year and $2 million above the base each of the other years.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I'm thinking they will go with a 4-6 year deal for Rodgers worth more than anyone else right now, that way it will be much easier to extend a 4-6 year contract after 3 years than it would a 10 year contract.

Much easier to convert 1-3 years of a contract to "signing bonus money" than it is to restructure a 10 year contract after the 1st 3 years.

Again, these contracts are all about the "guaranteed money", on paper Aaron will be the highest paid qb in The NFL only until one of the other "elite" qb's sign their new contract.

Not sure how this thread turned into a "Brett Favre" topic, but it's good to read that most have not forgotten!!!! 😆
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I'm thinking they will go with a 4-6 year deal for Rodgers worth more than anyone else right now, that way it will be much easier to extend a 4-6 year contract after 3 years than it would a 10 year contract.

Much easier to convert 1-3 years of a contract to "signing bonus money" than it is to restructure a 10 year contract after the 1st 3 years.

Again, these contracts are all about the "guaranteed money", on paper Aaron will be the highest paid qb in The NFL only until one of the other "elite" qb's sign their new contract.

Not sure how this thread turned into a "Brett Favre" topic, but it's good to read that most have not forgotten!!!! 😆

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I still think longer term is better. With the 4-6 year idea, we go through this uncertainty again then. The only way the shorter is better is if you think Rodgers will have diminished ability that soon - which I doubt. Even then, the ten year deal with guaranteed money only for the first five, as I wrote it up, leaves the team a lot of flexibility. Also, do the numbers, and I think you will find much higher cap numbers in the early years your way. The relevance of Favre to this is the fact mentioned in the JSOnline article that unlike most long term deals, he stayed long enough to receive virtually all of it. Barring injury, I think Rodgers would do the same.


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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
I am going to go with my original prediction that he gets a 10 (lifetime - where have we heard that before) contract that ensures he retires a Packer. I see that happening. I also see them restructuring it after a few years to afford other players.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

I am going to go with my original prediction that he gets a 10 (lifetime - where have we heard that before) contract that ensures he retires a Packer. I see that happening. I also see them restructuring it after a few years to afford other players.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Precisely.


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dfosterf
11 years ago
Frankly, I feel that Dhazer owes Ted and I a big-league blow-job for our work thus far in keeping Rodgers salary in check as much as is possible.

😝

I also feel our opportunity has passed, his hated boy Ted failed, and we are going to fall until the next great qb, THAT MUST BE CHEAP, ALSO.
steveishere
11 years ago

Frankly, I feel that Dhazer owes Ted and I a big-league blow-job for our work thus far in keeping Rodgers salary in check as much as is possible.

😝

I also feel our opportunity has passed, his hated boy Ted failed, and we are going to fall until the next great qb, THAT MUST BE CHEAP, ALSO.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I remember Dhazer HATED the contract when they signed Rodgers in 2008. Now it's the best contract in the nfl. lol
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