Your Draft Hopefuls· Page 4

Rockmolder
Honored Member

11 years ago

In follow up to my previous post....

I know these are only highlights... But just look at those strides, that ability to adjust to the ball, willingness to go for some extra yardage...

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#32

I'm not that big a fan of him, but I am a fan of a guy called Hunter. WR from Tennessee. 2nd round tag, but I think he'll be gone by the time we pick.

He was one of the most promising prospects, even drawing comparisons to Randy Moss, before he blew out his ACL. When he came back from that, his production didn't return as fast as everyone hoped. Especially the exlosiveness and speed seemed to be gone, together with making some mental errors and dropping the ball from time to time.

He goes to the combine, runs a 4.44, jumps a 39.5 vert and a WR-best 11'6 broad.

And all of that at 6'4, 200.

If anything, that tells you that his exlosiveness is coming back.

The hand issue... I think we can fix that.

If we manage to pick him up in the 2nd, this could be a very, very good receiver for us for a long time... Asuming his knee will hold up.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

Hunter may be taken in the 1st round. I don't think he will go early in the first but he will go late first or early 2nd.

Yerko
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#33

Ogletree is a better pick for us. Manti Teo. I don't like him for first round value. The guy is just slipping in this draft.. I don't know what all the hype was for this guy during the season. If we are looking for a ILB if all else fails in the first round. Take Ogletree. The guy has freakish size and speed. 6-3 242 pounds. Used to play safety so he can cover people. Not many LBs on our team can do that effectively. If Arthur Brown (Nevada) falls to us in the 2nd round take him. IMO we need to take a defensive lineman in the first round. Then a O-Line in the second. Datone Jones (UCLA) or Jesse Williams (Alabama) would be great pickups in the 1st round. Barrett Jones and Travis Frederick are great picks in the 2nd round as well.

My Needs for the draft goes DE,OL,S,ILB,RB,TE,WR

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

I just wanted to see someones initial thought on Ogletree. What bugs me about the Te'o criticism is, I think it is all overdone by the media. From the fake girlfriend hoax to now, everything has been overdone. If the analysts are going to nab one guy for test scores but not the next, there is something wrong.

The 40 yard dash sometimes has too much stock placed on it.

See below. Better test between the two highlighted.

Alec Ogletree
40- 4.7 seconds
Bench- 20 reps
Vert- 33.5 inches
Broad- 122 inches
3 Cone- 7.16 seconds
Shuttle- 4.39 seconds

Manti Te'o
40- 4.82 seconds
Bench- NA
Vert- 33 inches
Broad- 133 inches
3 Cone- 7.13 seconds
Shuttle- 4.27 seconds

The test scores are pretty comparable. I am really shocked that Te'o's (<--that is just weird to do) draft stock is tumbling, as some analysts would say because of his "disappointing" 40 time.

Aside from the testing scores because that doesn't tell the whole tale, final season stats...
Ogletree
63 tackles
48 assisted
111 total tackles
11.5 for loss
3 sacks
1 interception

Te'o
55 tackles
58 assists
113 total tackles
5.5 for loss
1.5 sacks
7 interceptions

Clearly, the competition both teams play are different but Georgia also had their fair share of powder games (I count at least 5). Ogletree is a good player, I am not trying to dispute that...but you aren't going to get much difference between Ogletree and Te'o. Te'o had 7 interceptions in a season so I'd say the kid probably has a knack for pass coverage. I know two of those interceptions were tipped, but he caught the ball nonetheless.

I'd take Te'o over Ogletree if both were available. Plus, a fake girlfriend is easier to deal with than some DUI's and failed drug tests 😆

Yerko
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#34

In follow up to my previous post....

I know these are only highlights... But just look at those strides, that ability to adjust to the ball, willingness to go for some extra yardage...

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

With all the talk of Finley now and the departure of Jennings, I wouldn't mind seeing someone like Justin Hunter taken in the 2nd round (his projected draft value). Even with Finley still on the team, I wouldn't mind seeing Justin Hunter selected.

4.4 40, almost 40 vert...plus highlight film. 🤤

Yerko
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#35

I typically follow walterfootball.com for mock draft stuff and this year he has been pissing me off...

I know, I know...its just mock drafts.

First, he had the Packers taking Keenan Allen. Sure, Jennings is on his way out so it would seem the Packers top need is at WR. False.

Updated his mock draft after the combine, some deals were done and some more news/rumors were spilled.

With the recent comments made by Finley (you know everything said by Finley is 100x's worse than if someone else said something), Walter goes as far to say that Jason La Canfora is reporting Finley will not be with the Packers next season. I can't find anything saying this.

Anyways, his updated draft leads him to say the Packers will take Tyler Eifert (TE-ND) with their 1st round choice.

Your thoughts?

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: Yerko

NEEDS: OLB, OLB, C, S, RB, WR, OT, K

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Gaycandybacon
Member

11 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: Yerko

Even if Finley packs up and leaves, it's not our number one priority. We need Defensive and Offensive line help. Period. We don't need to draft a high WR either even if Jennings leaves. Get a guy in the 5-7 round and make him our 4th receiver. I think we will Draft 26th overall Datone Jones DE out of UCLA.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

You're right. DL help.

NEEDS: OLB, OLB, DL, C, S, RB, WR, OT, K

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#39

Originally Posted by: Yerko

he is entitled to his opinion. I don;t see Uncle teddy looking for a WR or TE in the first round. The only way he would go that route if the player was truly heads and shoulders above everyone else. You know BPA is who he will take with the caveat that the player fills a need.

Yerko
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: wpr

I know. It just pisses me off because I feel like he is putting a half-assed effort into his mock draft.

For the record, if Jennings AND Finley were to depart...I don't think that this offense is successful. Somewhere in the line-up of team needs, WR or TE needs to be entered into discussion and somewhere closer to the front of the line.

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