Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Who do you WANT to be the starting cornerback alongside Tramon Williams?

I'm not too comfortable with either, but I'd have to go with Sam Shields because of his big play making ability and also if he gets burned he has the speed to compensate for it.
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earthquake
12 years ago
Sheilds, Bush never seems to turn around and make a play on the ball, even though he is often in position to do so. It drives me nuts.
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doddpower
12 years ago
I'm still really surprised Bush didn't work out better as a safety/SS. It just seems like it would suit him better, imo. Obviously I'm wrong, though.

Otherwise, I'd want Shields, especially the Shields of 2010 and 2012 preseason game 4.
yooperfan
12 years ago
I'm not a big fan of either one but if I had to pick between those 2 I'd pick Shields based on speed and I believe better ball awareness.
Hopefully he has learned how to tackle!
Pack93z
12 years ago
I will take anyone that can get the job done.. personally, if he keeps progressing, I will take Hayward by the middle of the season.

Anyway.. for this coming weekend.. I think in passing downs, with the number of receivers the 49er's have (5 # 1's, lol) we are going to see a ton of dime coverage.. so we are going to get healthy doses of both Bush and Shields.

Shields, with his head right, is a better cover corner than Bush. IMO.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I will take anyone that can get the job done.. personally, if he keeps progressing, I will take Hayward by the middle of the season.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Wait, Hayward? I don't recall him being discussed here? Me and my damn thread title typo's! Thanks for pointing this out!!!!

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zombieslayer
12 years ago
Shields is better in coverage. Bush is a better tackler. So running plays, Bush. Passing plays, Shields.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Shields is better in coverage. Bush is a better tackler. So running plays, Bush. Passing plays, Shields.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



That was my troubling point between the two. Bush is better at tackling, but Shields is better in coverage. I give the edge to Shields because I think he has the speed to correct some of his deficiencies.
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Pack93z
12 years ago

Wait, Hayward? I don't recall him being discussed here? Me and my damn thread title typo's! Thanks for pointing this out!!!!

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Ahhh...

Who do you WANT to be the starting cornerback alongside Tramon Williams?

Zero2Cool wrote:



So I answered.. but I also followed up with my choice between the two within the thread title.

2 birds.. 1 stone . [grin1]
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coltonja
12 years ago
Could Jarrett Bush guard Michael Crabtree or Mario Manningham? I don't think he can. I think Sam Shields could at least keep up with them and make game changing plays. I think Bush is better suited to guard TE's and more physical WR's. I don't like the idea of putting him in to help with the run defense because that's when play action deep balls come into play and if we're relying on DB's to stop the run we aren't doing a good job anyway.
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