Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I was going to write up a quick game by game when key players were coming back, but I think this article does a better job of that.

Green Bay - Mike McCarthy would never admit it but, if truth be told, this season probably is unfolding just about the way he hoped it would.

It's midseason, and if the playoff picture of today would be the same two months from now, the Green Bay Packers would open on the road as one of two wild-card teams in the NFC.

That's the same route that the Packers took to their Super Bowl championship in 2010, as did two other teams - Pittsburgh (2005) and the New York Giants ('07) - in the last seven years.

Most importantly, at least in McCarthy's eyes, he would have a fresher team under his command than the one that laid an egg in January against the Giants at Lambeau Field.

In that game, the Packers turned the ball over four times, couldn't make a big play on offense and were chewed up on defense.

Everybody could see that.

There was an emotional factor as well. The son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin was laid to rest 48 hours before kickoff.

McCarthy talked to a sports psychologist looking for answers. What effect, if any, the drowning death of Michael Philbin had on players never can be quantified.

After a few weeks of post-mortems on the team, McCarthy looked ahead.

"When something happens you've got to be critical of yourself," he said last month. "How can we play better at the end of the season? That's what Mike McCarthy asks himself every day."

The more McCarthy thought about it, the more he kept coming back to the energy and fitness level of the players that were overrun by the Giants, both physically and mentally.

Yes, the Packers were relieved to have off the opening weekend of the playoffs by virtue of their 15-1 regular season and No. 1 seeding. But remember what players often say: Once the hitting starts in training camp, you're never 100% fit until the off-season arrives and one's body has time to heal.

In February, McCarthy and Dom Capers, his defensive coordinator, had an extensive conversation about how to improve what had been a lousy defense. They looked at playing-time totals for players from scrimmage and on special teams, and neither liked what they saw.

Together, they reached the conclusion that too many players had played too many snaps before their most important game of the season against New York.

"I looked at the reps," McCarthy said. "Eleven guys played 1,000 reps. We're not built that way.

"Our whole February conversation was, 'OK, how can we get better with these guys?' "

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nerdmann
12 years ago
It's panning out nicely, because they played so efficiently in the last game?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
buckeyepackfan
12 years ago
Ask yourself these 3 questions.

#1. What if anything did you learn about the 2007,2010, & 2011 seasons?

#2. Did they win? (last week)

#3. Would you rather have The Packers play a game like last week in week 8 or in the 1st rnd of the playoffs?

No team is going to be hitting on all cylinders every week, especially when they are dealing with the multiple injuries to both the offense and defense as this years Packers are.

"Strive for perfection and you will achieve excellence along the way"
Vince Lombardi

That doesn't say be perfect, because even Vince Lombardi knew perfection is not 100% attainable.
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LambeauEast
12 years ago
I just read this before signing on, and it's something I never really gave too much thought about. Although I think last year's defense was bad enough that "fresh legs" for that first playoff game wouldn't have mattered too much, I can see where snap counts could help this year's defense...and offense too.

And yes, I would prefer the Packers to play a game like last week in week 8, as opposed to the first playoff game.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

It's panning out nicely, because they played so efficiently in the last game?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Efficient enough to win and if that doesn't matter, why play at all?
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nyrpack
12 years ago
all good teams win ugly at times, were rolling right now and have to keep it up !!
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RajiRoar
12 years ago

Efficient enough to win and if that doesn't matter, why play at all?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



* a win over the Jaguars does not mean much.

you can throw around the "any given sunday" mentality, but they (Jags) are awful.

given that neither our D or O have been very consistant, while a win is a win is a win, struggling againt a low-end team should still be concerning.

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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

* a win over the Jaguars does not mean much.

you can throw around the "any given sunday" mentality, but they (Jags) are awful.

given that neither our D or O have been very consistant, while a win is a win is a win, struggling againt a low-end team should still be concerning.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar 



Win over the Falcons or Jaguars counts the exact same. 1 W. Wins are what count. Do not let people who think team A should blow out team B minimize the value of ... a WIN! That's adsorb and shameful to do. By no count am I saying they couldn't do better, they could, they will and have to. Bottom line, the object is to score MORE points than the opponent in any legal means necessary. The Packers did that against the Jaguars. Thus, there is a REASON they PLAY the GAMES. You just never know what the outcome will be. And proof of that is my NFL weekley pick'em picks! hahaha
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Ask yourself these 3 questions.

#1. What if anything did you learn about the 2007,2010, & 2011 seasons?

#2. Did they win? (last week)

#3. Would you rather have The Packers play a game like last week in week 8 or in the 1st rnd of the playoffs?

No team is going to be hitting on all cylinders every week, especially when they are dealing with the multiple injuries to both the offense and defense as this years Packers are.

"Strive for perfection and you will achieve excellence along the way"
Vince Lombardi

That doesn't say be perfect, because even Vince Lombardi knew perfection is not 100% attainable.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Vince Lombardi would NOT have been satisfied with that performance.

His teams, unlike MM's teams, did not shit themselves regularly.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Vince Lombardi would NOT have been satisfied with that performance.

His teams, unlike MM's teams, did not shit themselves regularly.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



No one should be "satisfied" with the performance, but talking it down as a loss is just spoiled ass brat syndrome. Good teams win the close games, regardless if YOU feel they should be close or not.
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
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beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
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TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
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packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
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