alldaybaby
16 years ago

the guy is really starting to look like another one of ted thompsons bust

"pack93z" wrote:



This is something the Vikings know well.. first round busts. Didn't a couple of years ago; the Vikes spent two picks in the first round.. say 05.. and neither is with the team today? :lol:

Or one other word.. "Underwood". Case Closed. ;)

On topic.. Harrell is soft.. plain and simple. Either A) he doesn't train correctly, or 😎 he is too large for his frame which is causing undue stress on it or C) He has the pain threshold of a field mouse.

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our last two "bust" are now on other teams and we got something in return , harrell and hawk are still drawing a rookie 1st round pick salary of the packers :icon_smile:
a classic Aaron rogers quote\r\n\r\nquote: \"I\'ve got a roommate, a guy I met in town. He works for the Packers now as an athletic trainer....He\'s been great for me...Our friendship goes a lot deeper than what we do. \"
16 years ago


The kid had an injury history in college, he was injured at the time he was drafted and he has been injured more than he has been healthy since he has been in green Bay.
I have sat in Lambeau and watched him and I have watched him on TV and I can't see that he is capable of anything that you would expect from a 1st round draft pick.
If you can tell that he is capable of something exceptional, I'm not sure we are watching the same player.

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Just looking at his frame you can tell the coaches have a sort of freakish canvass to work with. I've seen him get good push on a number of plays. You can see some innate things he's got going for him. I'm not arguing with you about his production. Obviously his career so far has been a disappointment, to himself probably more than anyone else.
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dfosterf
16 years ago
The critique of Justin Harrell as a football player is a little different than the critique of him as injury-prone. This is not a new injury. My understanding is that he has been playing with it since the first week he came back from PUP. The most critical amongst us need to take that into account when judging him...the MAN HAS BEEN PLAYING HURT for weeks...go look it up yourself.

I am very critical of Justin Harrell. I'm the guy that posted the "lazy picture" , the "twinkie picture" and the "cash down the toilet" picture.
There is one major difference between my version of criticism and some others. Mine is borne of frustration, and if you carefully consider this new news, it is quite possible that it is the best news we could hear as regards Justin Harrell.

This seeming illogical statement bears scrutiny. IF... Justin Harrell has been playing hurt these past several weeks... that would help dispel the concept that the boy has a low threshold for pain/injury. It also at least leaves open for debate the concept of him being a non-impact d-lineman, as at least there MIGHT be some physical reasons behind it. I wanted to give him until the end of training camp next year, and frankly, my patience hasn't been up to the task. In a weird way, the knowledge that the boy is playing hurt is actually helping his cause in my mind, admittedly a strong possibility exists that I am grasping at straws, but it just needs to be pointed out that this "new news" isn't new news... check into it for yourself.
bozz_2006
16 years ago
i agree completely foster. i'm impatient and i want him to play at pro bowl level now. he's got talent. i've seen potential. if he's playing hurt, that shows me that he's capable of doing just that, and that we are not seeing his potential. same thing with Pickett right now. he hasn't done much this year, but he hasn't been healthy, so i can still hope he rights the ship next season.
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Since69
16 years ago
Who am I?

1993: I was drafted by the Vikings (79th overall). I showed up to camp out of shape and was cut during the first training camp. The Packers signed me because they were desperately thin at DT. I wound up playing in two games that year.
1994: My season was cut short when I tore my ACL.
1995: My season was cut short by an elbow injury.
1996: I started all 16 games and recorded 51 tackles on a defense that gave up only 19 TDs all year. And, oh yeah, we won the Superbowl that year, too.
1997: As a free agent, I took a pay cut to stay with the Packers and over the next few years I became one of the most dominant run stuffers (and one of the most popular Packers) of all time.

Maybe you've heard of me...

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Pack93z
16 years ago

Who am I?

1993: I was drafted by the Vikings (79th overall). I showed up to camp out of shape and was cut during the first training camp. The Packers signed me because they were desperately thin at DT. I wound up playing in two games that year.
1994: My season was cut short when I tore my ACL.
1995: My season was cut short by an elbow injury.
1996: I started all 16 games and recorded 51 tackles on a defense that gave up only 19 TDs all year. And, oh yeah, we won the Superbowl that year, too.
1997: As a free agent, I took a pay cut to stay with the Packers and over the next few years I became one of the most dominant run stuffers (and one of the most popular Packers) of all time.

"Since69" wrote:



Great point, but one major difference. The Packers could afford for that talent to stay healthy.. drafted in the top 20 doesn't give a player the same luxury.. it is perform now or pack your bags.;

If I am the Players Union.. this is one of the things I take to task next CBA.. a slotted pay scale for draft picks, eliminating the massive first round money.

Why.. isn't that against the Unions interest.. IMO.. not really.. if they bargain in buying out a year or two of the restricted free agency more of their players will get a bigger piece of the money, and prolong the careers of players that wash out early because they struggle early coming out and get cut prematurely.. never reaching potential.. plus the guys that come out late in the draft or via UDFA.. they get rewarded quicker for their play.

Win Win for all.. and you may see more stories like this one.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
agopackgo4
16 years ago
I feel bad for this guy...Ya know much he must wana be out there playin?
bozz_2006
16 years ago
also, less money for rooks means more money for vets. that's a good thing.
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alldaybaby
16 years ago

Who am I?

1993: I was drafted by the Vikings (79th overall). I showed up to camp out of shape and was cut during the first training camp. The Packers signed me because they were desperately thin at DT. I wound up playing in two games that year.
1994: My season was cut short when I tore my ACL.
1995: My season was cut short by an elbow injury.
1996: I started all 16 games and recorded 51 tackles on a defense that gave up only 19 TDs all year. And, oh yeah, we won the Superbowl that year, too.
1997: As a free agent, I took a pay cut to stay with the Packers and over the next few years I became one of the most dominant run stuffers (and one of the most popular Packers) of all time.

Maybe you've heard of me...

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"Since69" wrote:




here's another good point ..............we are only a couple of weeks away from 2009 , what has last century got to do with whats happening now ?

some one just told me HARRELL is done for the year btw
a classic Aaron rogers quote\r\n\r\nquote: \"I\'ve got a roommate, a guy I met in town. He works for the Packers now as an athletic trainer....He\'s been great for me...Our friendship goes a lot deeper than what we do. \"
bozz_2006
16 years ago
maybe that's a good thing. he probably learned a lot of valuable stuff this season.
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