Jarrett Bush or Sam Shields?· Page 3

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

I would take Bush. Until he gets burned in the game on Sunday I believe he can get the job done. He's one of the most athletic guys on this team. He's shown improvement in his years in GB. Remember early in his career? He wouldn't even be in a discussion for a job like this. So the fact that he is even in this discussion says something about his progression. And don't forget the pass rush was an issue last year. he is above average at coming with the blitz. For a corner

Originally Posted by: agopackgo4

Another good point. He is better than Shields at pass rushing. (And yes, that's important considering how poor we were at it last year).

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beast
Select Member

12 years ago

#22

I haven't trusted Bush in coverage... but this preseason he looked a whole lot better, and surprisingly didn't make huge mistakes. He made a couple of smaller ones but Shields and Hayward made more.

The 49ers run the ball more, and Capers has been blitzing CBs from the outside some and Bush might be better at taking down a RB in the back field.

I think Bush will get the start.

I think Shields might be the best pure coverage guy of the rest.

A healthy House might be the best overall but we don't know if he'll be healthy enough yet.

I really liked Hayward, he made some rookie mistakes in one game but overall I thought he looked more like a 2nd year guy out there and just seemed to get it.

Not excited about this... but I think I'll go with Bush... of the healthy guys he's made the least mistakes, so earned a shot. It's the 49ers who like the run the ball and be physical which matches his style. But I might have a short leash...

Also I'm worried one of the DBs will get burned by the play action with the 49ers run their offense off of. Run the ball, run the ball, fake run the ball and pass.... I think that fake will get one of the DBs if the pressure doesn't get to him.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#23

Bush can maintain coverage. He just can't make a play on the ball when it's in the air.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#24

It is my hope that Shields can make a number of big plays which would help him get his confidence back and, of course, it would also help the cause.

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nyrpack
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#25

shields by far !!

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nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#26

JSO

"I'm new and improved," Bush said. "I'm older, wiser, faster, stronger. And I'm here to make plays. Shoot, I'm here to be dominant."

Damn, that scares me.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#27

How about "none of the above"?

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#28

How about "none of the above"?

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Shields made a key third down tackle against Frank Gore, a tough runner who significantly outweighs him. I give him credit for that.

Seemed like they were playing Bush on running downs, Shields on passing downs.

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stevegb
Member

12 years ago

#29

If its out of those two its shields for me no matter what, I cant stand bush. I accept him if hes on the special teams and that's how he makes the team but to have him in the Defensive squad is nuts, hes just not good enough. At least with shields you get elite speed and maybe he is able to recover, also there's a chance with more experience it finally clicks for shields.

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dfosterf
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#30

Bush sucks. He just does. I'm sorry. One of you Wisconsinites please tell Ted. He doesn't get it any better than some of you.

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