DanJustDan29
16 years ago
The second half began, I came out looking for the Pack to be ready to go. Three straight pass attempts and then a punt. Where is the run game Mr. McCarthy? A good DRIVE would have done wonders. That was when I was probably most frustrated, what was the moment yesterday that frustrated you the most?
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another. -Vince Lombardi
dfosterf
16 years ago

The second half began, I came out looking for the Pack to be ready to go. Three straight pass attempts and then a punt. Where is the run game Mr. McCarthy? A good DRIVE would have done wonders. That was when I was probably most frustrated, what was the moment yesterday that frustrated you the most?

"DanJustDan29" wrote:



So you want them to run the ball I take it?
















(That is a joke, Dan... I read what you say here and on chat. I hope I made you at least chuckle a little :thumbleft: )
Pack93z
16 years ago
My WTF moment.. time after time watching Hawk sit on his heels and not engage.. your 250 and have leverage.. what in the hell are you waiting for.. damn. Like he was struggling reading the play.. pump a little more oxygen into that chamber.

Pickett and Jolly weren't getting any push.. but at least they were tying up two guys for short periods.. watch Bishop on that one play.. he played off Jolly's gobble and made a big stick in the backfield.. something we haven't seen much of.

But I agree.. there are times where the play calling was suspect... but I think MM seen what most seen.. that we had guys open in that first and Rodgers was just slightly off with the throws.. I think that maybe played into his thinking.. come out and strike on them through the air.. fast.

When you have the talent we have a WR.. it is tempting.. add to it our line is a better pass blocking unit than power running.. but it is frustrating no doubt.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dingus
16 years ago
Every time they come out of the huddle I find myself mumbling: "Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball..."
blank
Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
So do I. Aaron Rodgers is the highest-rated quarterback in the league on play action, but play action only works when you have a running game worth respecting. We don't need to pass so much early in each half -- or for, that matter, on our final drives of games. A key element in each of our last few losses has been returning the ball back to the opponent with too much time remaining on the clock. If we'd grind it down under a minute before punching it into the endzone, our chances of winning would increase exponentially.
UserPostedImage
Packnic
16 years ago
my WTF moment. any third down play that Bishop was on the field.
blank
Pack93z
16 years ago

my WTF moment. any third down play that Bishop was on the field.

"Packnic" wrote:



Agreed.. but I put that on the coaching staff.. yesterday we have two players playing our of position.. if they were so freaking stubborn they would have twisted them back.. been more effective in the run defense and put them in longer thirds where we would have been in nickel or dime.

Watch the way they were running.. for the most part where Bishop was not.

But agreed.. he simply doesn't have the foot speed to cover man to man at this point.. drop into zone backer at best. But the kid is a thumper in the run defense..

You know.. good coaches adjust their 11 to fit situations.. IE.. put the Physical Rouse in for Bishop on those run/pass options..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Packnic
16 years ago

my WTF moment. any third down play that Bishop was on the field.

"pack93z" wrote:



Agreed.. but I put that on the coaching staff.. yesterday we have two players playing our of position.. if they were so freaking stubborn they would have twisted them back.. been more effective in the run defense and put them in longer thirds where we would have been in nickel or dime.

Watch the way they were running.. for the most part where Bishop was not.

But agreed.. he simply doesn't have the foot speed to cover man to man at this point.. drop into zone backer at best. But the kid is a thumper in the run defense..

You know.. good coaches adjust their 11 to fit situations.. IE.. put the Physical Rouse in for Bishop on those run/pass options..

"Packnic" wrote:



oh i agree... its coaching when you consistently watch a player get attacked and you don't respond accordingly. Just like last year in the NFC championship game with Al. Bishop was getting stomped and its his fault... but at some point the DC or HC has to say... get him out hes a liability and make something else work. I am not one to call for firings, but Sanders regardless of injuries doesn't seem like hes able to keep up. I hope he doesn't get fired and comes back next year and makes me eat my words.... I am just losing faith every week watching this defense consistently get eaten alive. Passing one week, running the next.

I think Ted needs to get on his jet and fly to Blacksburg and hire Bud Foster away from Virginia Tech. That man has his defense ready to play every day, and is one of the best at making adjustments. I know its college ball but I think he could make the transition. and boy if you wanted fire from the coaching staff... you would get it with Foster. New looks and thinking on defense would be a welcome change at this point.
blank
Pack93z
16 years ago
Want a name that may be interesting after the season.. Wade Phillips.

Straight shooter.. very sound DC.. and I think he will be looking for work come Feb.

He is a 3-4 coach.. which is a little different roster wise and has natural liabilities within the scheme.. but we have to retool the roster at this point anyway..

I don't think there is anyway Wade survives the offseason...

He would bring a good measure of experience and seems like a natural fit in terms of blending into this coaching staff.

There.. completely off topic.

Back to the running game.. doesn't that speak volumes about MM makeup though.. he is a QB coach, do you really expect him to be patient with the run?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
yooperfan
16 years ago

Want a name that may be interesting after the season.. Wade Phillips.

Straight shooter.. very sound DC.. and I think he will be looking for work come Feb.

He is a 3-4 coach.. which is a little different roster wise and has natural liabilities within the scheme.. but we have to retool the roster at this point anyway..

I don't think there is anyway Wade survives the offseason...

He would bring a good measure of experience and seems like a natural fit in terms of blending into this coaching staff.

There.. completely off topic.

Back to the running game.. doesn't that speak volumes about Mike McCarthy makeup though.. he is a QB coach, do you really expect him to be patient with the run?

"pack93z" wrote:



Your last sentence is why I think that we need a bonafide offensive coordinator that calls the plays.
McCarthys playcalling is suspect as he appears to get locked in to playing to the QB and damn the balanced attack.
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (14h) : Their season did kind of start there, so 🤷
    dfosterf (21h) : Eagles put an engraved Brazil flag on their super bowl rings
    Zero2Cool (18-Jul) : Benton unsigned no more
    Zero2Cool (17-Jul) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
    packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
    Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
    Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
    Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
    Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
    Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
    Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
    Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
    Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
    wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
    Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
    Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
    beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    18-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    15-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    14-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

    6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

    1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.