Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I think he's saying that the 16th overall draft pick would merit a longer look because of the fiscal investment over an undrafted player.

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Rockmolder
12 years ago

I think he's saying that the 16th overall draft pick would merit a longer look because of the fiscal investment over an undrafted player.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That and you pick a guy in the first round because you see the potential he has. Obviously, you're going to give him a year or two, at least, to tap into that. Undrafted players usually go undrafted for a reason. They don't have to be bad, but they just haven't shown anything yet.

That said, no way that they'll cut Shields.

Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Casey Hayward, Davon House, Brandian Ross, Otis Merrell, Dion Turner.

Those last three guys are a huge longshot to make the roster.

And even if one of them will be impressive enough to make it, I don't see Shields as the guy out. I know Bush has a tendency to stick around, but he's the most expendable of the first six guys.

Woodson and Bush are both at their best when they play that slot position. Woodson doesn't have the pure speed outside anymore to just step in and replace Shields on a guy like Heyward-Bey, Smith or any of the faster receivers.

(Not saying he can't play that position anymore, as I feel confident he has the wits to still be excellent, but you get what I'm saying)

I don't even want to think about what would happen, were we to put Bush at Shields' position.

Tramon's obviously not leaving and both House and Hayward have joined the team too recently and have too much upside to be cut at this point.

So Bush's strongest case, once again, comes on special teams or by converting him to safety on the depth chart again.

In that case, I'm afraid Jennings would be the odd man out.

Anyway, like it looks now, I feel like there's a 80% chance, barring any injuries or something, that the final CB roster will look like this...

Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Casey Hayward, Davon House.
nerdmann
12 years ago
If anything they PUP Tramon until his shoulder heals. That injury makes Shields even more important.

I do think however that Shields will man up this year. Keep in mind, it's still his first ever offseason.
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Anyway, like it looks now, I feel like there's a 80% chance, barring any injuries or something, that the final CB roster will look like this...

Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Casey Hayward, Davon House.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



agreed.

(I see you are catching up on some of the posts Rocky.) 👍
UserPostedImage
12 years ago
The PFW writer's opinion is incorrect.

While the Packers are always looking to upgrade their talent at all 53 roster positions, Shields is still in the top 4 and will not be cut. His cap number is very low which makes him more likely to stay.
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