DakotaT
12 years ago
It's really not that anyone hates Favre, it's that the things he did at the end of his career in GB left people scorned. When Brett decided to become a Diva and expect his ass kissed, people were turned away. Putting on a purple uniform solitified his doucheness.

To Brett's defense, I'm sure he felt betrayed by the drafting of Rodgers, but had he not started all the retirement BS years before, the Packers might not have drafted the gift that fell to us.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

It's really not that anyone hates Favre, it's that the things he did at the end of his career in GB left people scorned. When Brett decided to become a Diva and expect his ass kissed, people were turned away. Putting on a purple uniform solitified his doucheness.

To Brett's defense, I'm sure he felt betrayed by the drafting of Rodgers, but had he not started all the retirement BS years before, the Packers might not have drafted the gift that fell to us.

Originally Posted by: Dakotat 



The Packers would have still drafted Aaron Rodgers, regardless of any retirement talk from Brett Favre. The Packers weren't a 1st round defensive player away from being being a Super Bowl contender, they needed a complete overhaul. And I believe Brett Favre was 35 going on 36.
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12 years ago

The Packers would have still drafted Aaron Rodgers, regardless of any retirement talk from Brett Favre. The Packers weren't a 1st round defensive player away from being being a Super Bowl contender, they needed a complete overhaul. And I believe Brett Favre was 35 going on 36.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They would have drafted AR. He was the BPA. Only an insecure player would have felt Aaron Rodgers was there to take his job. Clearly the Front Office wanted Aaron to sit on the bench for about 3 years and learn about the NFL. No one was trying to rush Brett out the front door in the next year or 2.
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

I don't know I still hate Edgar Bennett for leaving the Packers and going to the Bears, what a trader. I will never forgive him for that.

What I don't understand is why so many people are butt hurt that Favre went to the Vikings? After all those same people were calling for him to retire because he didn't have it anymore. Yes I understand he wiggled his way around the huge stipulation that Ted Thompson put out there to prevent him from coming back to play the Packers. Ted Thompson was just as dirty in this as was Favre. As was stated so many times, why not just release Favre and let him decide his fate, but no Ted Thompson had to try and have the last word by trading him. But in the end Favre got his way and went to his best chance at going to another Super Bowl (only if he would have just thrown the ball away or just got on the ground). I have no hard feelings towards him and I am grateful he helped build back the Packer name.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Dhazer, haven't you figured it out yet? To be a Packer fan today, you cannot say anything positive about Brett Favre. Today's Packer fan has, in their minds, re-written Packer history to show what a terrible, dispicable, selfish player Brett Favre was.

Nothing you say matters, they are right, they will spew out pages of stats, articles and quotes to prove their point.

At some point, and I'm not sure when it actually happened, being a Packer fan went from, backing your team no matter how good or bad, no matter who played, 100%, to supporting the guys on the team they deem acceptable and berrating and sometimes just downright hatred of players they deem unnaceptable.

I, myself hate what has become of the once "Greatest Fan base in History", IDK, maybe time has passed me by.

I agree with you about Brett Favre, when he was with The Packers, I couldn't wait for the next game, because no matter what the outcome, you just knew Brett was going to be a big part of it, because he played with passion that very few ever did.

Again, that history has all been re-written, so I guess I was being scammed by Brett all those years.

I have never seen eye to eye with you on your views of Ted Thompson, but have always respected your opinion.

There were plenty of nay-sayers those first few years of his tenure, especially in 2008, when The Packers went 6-10. I do think you will agree that what Ted has done in Green Bay has been successful, the road was not an easy one, he made some tough decisions, but they have seemed to be the right ones.

Looking back, with the way things ended up in 2008, straight out releasing Brett Favre might have been a better decision, the circus would have never come to town, the media distractions would not have been there, and as it turned out, if I remember right, The Vikings won the division that year anyway.

But for some to keep backing Ted, there had to be a bad guy, and Brett Favre was that guy, don't get me wrong Brett didn't help himself any in some of the things he said, in the end he lost the "battle of popular opinion"

It is real easy to go back and play Monday Morning GM. So I will leave it at that.
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12 years ago

Dhazer, haven't you figured it out yet? To be a Packer fan today, you cannot say anything positive about Brett Favre. Today's Packer fan has, in their minds, re-written Packer history to show what a terrible, dispicable, selfish player Brett Favre was.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



inaccurate and untrue.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Dhazer, haven't you figured it out yet? To be a Packer fan today, you cannot say anything positive about Brett Favre. Today's Packer fan has, in their minds, re-written Packer history to show what a terrible, dispicable, selfish player Brett Favre was.

Nothing you say matters, they are right, they will spew out pages of stats, articles and quotes to prove their point.

At some point, and I'm not sure when it actually happened, being a Packer fan went from, backing your team no matter how good or bad, no matter who played, 100%, to supporting the guys on the team they deem acceptable and berrating and sometimes just downright hatred of players they deem unnaceptable.

I, myself hate what has become of the once "Greatest Fan base in History", IDK, maybe time has passed me by.

I agree with you about Brett Favre, when he was with The Packers, I couldn't wait for the next game, because no matter what the outcome, you just knew Brett was going to be a big part of it, because he played with passion that very few ever did.

Again, that history has all been re-written, so I guess I was being scammed by Brett all those years.

I have never seen eye to eye with you on your views of Ted Thompson, but have always respected your opinion.

There were plenty of nay-sayers those first few years of his tenure, especially in 2008, when The Packers went 6-10. I do think you will agree that what Ted has done in Green Bay has been successful, the road was not an easy one, he made some tough decisions, but they have seemed to be the right ones.

Looking back, with the way things ended up in 2008, straight out releasing Brett Favre might have been a better decision, the circus would have never come to town, the media distractions would not have been there, and as it turned out, if I remember right, The Vikings won the division that year anyway.

But for some to keep backing Ted, there had to be a bad guy, and Brett Favre was that guy, don't get me wrong Brett didn't help himself any in some of the things he said, in the end he lost the "battle of popular opinion"

It is real easy to go back and play Monday Morning GM. So I will leave it at that.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Making sweeping generalizations that to be a Packers fan you can not speak positive about Brett Favre is immensely offensive and tragically uncalled for and unnecessary and unwarranted.

Releasing Brett Favre outright? Clay Matthews pick draft day trade? But yeah, let a guy who wants to stick it to the Packers go to the rival whom is a QB away from a Super Bowl, that's always the smart decision.


Thank you for your contribution to the topic at hand, Curly Lambeau, which I personally found it interesting that there was issues with him buying property for the team to practice. I would think
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

Dhazer, haven't you figured it out yet? To be a Packer fan today, you cannot say anything positive about Brett Favre. Today's Packer fan has, in their minds, re-written Packer history to show what a terrible, dispicable, selfish player Brett Favre was.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Not rewriting, taking the hero worship blinders off and shining the glaring light of reality on the myth.

For some, no matter what reality you show them, they can't let go of the myth. Favre could bugger an unwilling goat on the 50 yard line during the super bowl half time show and some die hard fans would find a way to blame the goat.
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

Not rewriting, taking the hero worship blinders off and shining the glaring light of reality on the myth.

For some, no matter what reality you show them, they can't let go of the myth. Favre could bugger an unwilling goat on the 50 yard line during the super bowl half time show and some die hard fans would find a way to blame the goat.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Thank you for making my point!!!
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Thank you for making my point!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



And thank you for making my point. =d>


So, Curly Lambeau ... there has to be more to the story of him resigning simply because folks were ticked off that he purchased a training facility, right?
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

And thank you for making my point. =d>


So, Curly Lambeau ... there has to be more to the story of him resigning simply because folks were ticked off that he purchased a training facility, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Sorry, didn't realize that I am the one always getting off topic, thanks for calling me out the one time I go along with the rest.
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bboystyle (2h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
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