nerdmann
12 years ago
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"I think it was the worst decision I made, quite honestly," Harlan told Green & Gold Today on Tuesday, via ESPNMilwaukee.com.



I agree. After they fired Rhodes after one season, it seemed like nobody wanted to touch the job with a ten foot pole. I suspect there were various reasons for this, one among them being that Rhodes apparently handed the keys to the franchise to his starting QB. So Sherman was a pretty good hire at that point. I don't think he was quite ready, but there weren't many takers for the position.

I don't think he reigned in the QB very well. But I think Sherman's main failing as a coach was that he brought in all his buddies as assistant coaches. Which wouldn't have been a big deal, but they all kind of sucked. Tom Rosseley especially. I also thought he unfairly scapegoated Ed Donnatell.

But yeah, his biggest failing was as a GM. LOL. If Grady Jackson hadn't fallen into his lap that year after being outright released due to weight issues, he'd really have been screwed. Remember when he drafted James Lee? LOL. Then there was the infamous pic of him sleeping at the combine. LOL.

"I was concerned that if a new man came in from the outside, (Sherman) might have trouble getting along with him, ..."



This concern turned out to be valid. It seemed like a blow to Sherman's ego when Ted was hired. You can't have that in an employee. It's not personal, it's about business.

Then there was this:

Harlan pointed to the long, contentious holdout of cornerback Mike McKenzie in 2004 as a breaking point. Sherman was frazzled heading into the season, according to Harlan, who stripped the coach of GM duties and named Ted Thompson to the role in 2005. No regrets there.


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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
After Ray Rhodes was fired, the Packers HC was not seen as something no one wanted to touch with a ten foot pole. Where do you come up with these self proclaimed facts? My gosh it's fascinating!

Bob Harlan has said several times having both GM and HC as one person was a mistake. And each time it was cited the Mike McKenzie dispute was the final straw. Bob Harlan is starting to repeat himself in old age! lol

I think Sherman was a decent coach, but he more so was feeding off the talent Ron Wolf handed him.
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Bob Harlan regrets making Sherman GM




As do we all.

I didn't mind Sherman as HC but like Zero says he had a lot of talent to work with. it was pretty hard to screw it up.
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DakotaT
12 years ago
Hated Sherman as a GM. He was in way over his head because he couldn't draft worth a damn.

As a coach, I really like the power running game we had - but I though the defense and special teams were always soft. When Sherman's teams were punched in the mouth, they never seemed to punch back. Case in point, the Sapp hit on Clifton should have been answered with about 30 guys in a fist fight at midfield. Sherman was the only one with any balls to actually stand up to Sack.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

Hated Sherman as a GM. He was in way over his head because he couldn't draft worth a damn.

As a coach, I really like the power running game we had - but I though the defense and special teams were always soft. When Sherman's teams were punched in the mouth, they never seemed to punch back. Case in point, the Sapp hit on Clifton should have been answered with about 30 guys in a fist fight at midfield. Sherman was the only one with any balls to actually stand up to Sack.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Too bad that power running game wasn't enough.

200 yards rushing, 7 sacks and 2 takeaways.

They still lost because Sherman tried to get an off sides call on 4th and 1. It resulted in a delay penalty and they punted into the end zone.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Too bad that power running game wasn't enough.

200 yards rushing, 7 sacks and 2 takeaways.

They still lost because Sherman tried to get an off sides call on 4th and 1. It resulted in a delay penalty and they punted into the end zone.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



It's definitely become a passing league, even moreso now than in Sherman's time.
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LambeauEast
12 years ago
As has been said, I didn't mind Sherman as HC, but he was over his head as GM.

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shield4life
12 years ago
If we had a good general manager in those year I think we could of pulled out a SB win in one of those years with Sherman as the head coach.
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joym13
12 years ago

If we had a good general manager in those year I think we could of pulled out a SB win in one of those years with Sherman as the head coach.

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



I agree - Sherman was a decent coach, terrible GM
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