Poll Question: What word best describes President Obama? Discuss.

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Wade
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13 years ago
I was surfing earlier today and spent time on a blog. (No I don't have the link -- I was surfing. Does the Big Kahuna take notes when he's riding the waves?)

Anyway, the blog in question was a conservative one, and debating the question of whether Obama was evil or just stupid.

I thought it suggested a possible topic for discussion. So since I make no pretense that I think our current Prez is a pinhead, I'm going to use Obama. (Others can feel free to start a similar poll for one of their least favorite politicos...)


And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Wade
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13 years ago
I'm tempted to say "evil." I do think he's a manipulative sonuvabitch, a conman. And he is an Illinois politician after all.

And I definitely think his "ideas", especially his economic ones, are stupider than stupid. And his famed rhetorical skill is merely an ability to sell items without any real value -- Madison Avenue has thousands of stupid people with that sort of ability.

But I do think he has some "well-meaning" in him, too. So today I'll settle for incompetent. Well-meaning or not, intelligent or not, good man or not, he simply doesn't have what a President ought to have. He doesn't even have the abilities a "liberal" or "Democratic" President ought to have. At best he's a Casper Chocolatemilquetoast. And at worst he's a cross between Merkin Muffley, Ellsworth Toohey, and No. 2.



And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
The guy is the best President since Reagan. The guy can't catch a break because every clown with an internet connection knows everything. Everything done is twisted to a negative or positive depending on their own views.

Problem with this country is no one has respect for anyone anymore. See someone with power? They must be a power tripping ego maniac who's corrupt!! Foolish, pure foolish.
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Wade
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13 years ago

The guy is the best President since Reagan. The guy can't catch a break because every clown with an internet connection knows everything. Everything done is twisted to a negative or positive depending on their own views.

Problem with this country is no one has respect for anyone anymore. See someone with power? They must be a power tripping ego maniac who's corrupt!! Foolish, pure foolish.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Gee. I think I'm going to have to rethink this Kevin-for-Prez idea.

Obama is merely the most rhetorically savvy president since Reagan.

And like Reagan, he is an expert at saying nothing while appearing to be profound and all the rest.

I admit I voted for Reagan twice. The first time I believed in him as 2008 Obamoids believed in Obama. The second time I was disillusioned, but I also still bought into the "lesser of two evils" philosophy of voting.

But apart from his first tax bill, and his recognition of Cold War realities, he was a mediocre President by historical standards. If Obama is no better than Reagan, he is, IMO, unworthy of the office for a second term.

And if the two parties can't come up with anyone better than mediocre, it's time for 'none of the above.' The country of Washington and Jefferson, Adams and Madison and even Hamilton, deserves better. If we have to settle for mediocre, then we might as well be France.


And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Since69
13 years ago

Problem with this country is no one has respect for anyone anymore. See someone with power? They must be a power tripping ego maniac who's corrupt!! Foolish, pure foolish.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Says the admin whose self-assigned forum rank is "Legend"...

My personal take on Obama is that he underestimated his own power. I believe he ran for office believing all that fluff he was shoveling, and I believe he thought he could make a difference. The problem is congress. Not just the Republicans. And not just the Democrats. Congress as a whole. The president can't do squat without congress' backing.

And that's how it should be, frankly. The authors of the constitution set strict limits on the president's power because they knew what it was like to live under a tyrant and they didn't want to have to do it again. If we really want change, we have to start with congress. Term limits would be a fine place to start, but the American people really need to get involved and hold their representatives accountable. There's too much lazy, uninformed party-line rubber-stamp voting going on in this country. And as a result, congress is infested with bloated, self-important, squabbling children who would rather make the other side of the aisle look bad than cooperate and get things done, while still managing to get reelected term after term.
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Porforis
13 years ago
Unlike most people, I don't really buy into the "politicians are evil" thing. I'd definitely say that many are corrupt or straight-up out of touch with reality, but this isn't the movies, kids. There's a difference between out of touch and straight-up being a self-serving asshole that doesn't care what happens to anyone else. Not many people do things just to be a dick. I think Obama is well-meaning, and like any other politician he's prone to bouts of half-truths and distortions to combat the crap coming at him from the other side of the aisle not out of some supervillian need to be evil, but for self-preservation and in his eyes to combat people that are taking the country in the wrong direction. I'm not going to get into specific policy decisions since that horse has long since been beaten to a bloody pulp, but the presidency is one of the worst jobs in the world. We can't expect our politicians to be perfect, and I refuse to listen to the "Obama's trying to destroy the country/turn us into a socialist utopia!" crap any more than I put up with the constant "Bush planned 9/11 for oil and personal profit/herp derp Bush is dumb let's interpret and distort everything in a way that justifies our view" crap that went on during his terms.

People are judgmental, illogical assholes (typically with good intentions) to some extent whether they like to admit it or not, myself included. We're all too eager to scream and cry about someone we don't agree with doing X until someone we do like does something equivalent to X.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I was talking out of my ass about Reagan and his presidency, I don't know good from bad because I don't have any facts to support anything positive or negative about any of the past presidents.

I admit I voted for Reagan twice. The first time I believed in him as 2008 Obamoids believed in Obama. The second time I was disillusioned, but I also still bought into the "lesser of two evils" philosophy of voting.

Originally Posted by: Wade 


The lesser of two evils is what we're left with because of the direction of campaigns. I hate, absolutely HATE campaigns because everything is Candidate A downgrading Candidate B and vice versa. It's not a I'm going to tell the nation how I'm the best candidate, nope, its I'm gonna tell them how the other candidate is wrong for the nation. It might not sound like a difference, but to me it's huge. I want someone who doesn't have to knock someone down to appear better. I want someone who is going to say I will do this, this is where we need to go, this is where we need to be and I am the person to get us there!

We raise our children to treat others with respect and if nothing good to say, speak nothing at all. Yet when it comes to running for the most powerful position in the world, its no holds barred?


Says the admin whose self-assigned forum rank is "Legend"...

Originally Posted by: Since69 


And proving my statement that everyone with an internet connection feels they know everything without research. It's a rank and it's based off post count. Thanks for trying! 😣
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