They are.

The first generation will speak english as well as any citizen but they will probably be bilingual. Buy the second generation, they probably will not even know how to hold a conversation in their grandparents native language.

It is the way it has always been. Since the beginning of the United States.

Learning a new language as an adult is a bit more difficult than it is for little kids.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

I'll give both you momolucs $10 cash to come out and sling some honey. I'll even splurge on the greyhound bus ticket. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

lol nothing personal, but my charge is over $30 when I'm not in the office. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

How do we know they wouldn't pay taxes if they were legal?

I know that if I were working illegally, I wouldn't tell ANY government person I was doing so. Much less an agent of the Treasury department.

If we as a society (acting through our government) tell Jose he is an illegal person subject to deportation if he is caught, we ought not complain when he fails to file tax returns. We ought not even be surprised.

Originally Posted by: Wade 

Friggin' Dakota still whinin' about his friggin' bee operation. It ain't Exxon, go back to your work and/or getting stung like the rest of us schleppers and stfu, shovel / schlep / grab / steal that honey and be be damned glad it ain't shit you're shovelin' for a livin' lol.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

Mixed feelings.

For it: America has always been, and should always be, the land of opportunity. These kids have done nothing wrong, and should be allowed in. Period. I have yet to hear a good argument against it.

Against: the last statement in Porforis' opening post: "...everytime we trample over the constitution, it's that much easier the next time." And I worry that this is nothing more than Obama trying to garner votes by pandering to minorities.

On an even more fundamental level,it bothers me each and every time that major decisions are made in Washington and I'm not consulted beforehand. Not just me personally, of course, but each and every citizen. This IS supposed to be a democracy, right? That's what we're still pretending, isn't it? How the hell do my congressmen know what I want? And why should they care what I want, when they keep getting elected (by patriotic, but willfully ignorant morons) simply on the basis of their party affiliation?

Originally Posted by: Since69 

On an even more fundamental level,it bothers me each and every time that major decisions are made in Washington and I'm not consulted beforehand. Not just me personally, of course, but each and every citizen. This IS supposed to be a democracy, right? That's what we're still pretending, isn't it? How the hell do my congressmen know what I want?

Originally Posted by: Since69 

And why should they care what I want, when they keep getting elected (by patriotic, but willfully ignorant morons) simply on the basis of their party affiliation?

Originally Posted by: Since69