wpr
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12 years ago
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There must be some big news coming out of the Green Bay Packers‘ first day of mandatory minicamp, right? Not really, but we did take note of one thing passed on by Jeff Ash.

Jarrett Bush was working with the Packers starting base defense ahead of Sam Shields. Tramon Williams was on the other side and Charles Woodson worked in the slot.

Shields, who had a pretty terrible 2011 season, appears to be sliding down the depth chart. That, or the coaches are sending a message that he better get his shit together if he wants to see the field at all.

Let’s consider the position for a minute.

The starters are set with Williams and Woodson. The Packers re-signed Bush, who was a free agent, in the offseason — a clear vote of confidence for a player who has steadily improved. Then they drafted Casey Hayward in the second round of the draft. Meanwhile, Davon House has been getting praise all offseason for making the good old second-year jump.

The second-year jump is something Shields didn’t make last season. After performing admirably as a rookie, Shields took a major step back in 2011. He gambled too much and often paid for it.

So where is he on the depth chart now? Fourth? Fifth? Maybe even sixth?

It’s too early to tell. He’s probably still ahead of Hayward and House because of experience, but there’s no guarantee that will last.

If you’re counting, we’ve mentioned six cornerbacks. The Packers kept six corners last season. Substitute second-round bust Pat Lee for Hayward and you have the group.

Lee and House were fifth and sixth in the group and didn’t really get on the field other than on special teams. If he doesn’t turn things around, a guy who once looked like a future star may find himself in that position this season.

If things get worse, Shields may find himself off the roster entirely.



I expect Sam to bounce back. It came so easily to him his rookie season he figured he could gamble more and more because of his speed. He learned.
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nerdmann
12 years ago
Ha ha, they're just sending him a message. No way Bush starts over him.

If it was Heyward or House in front of him, I'd view that as a threat. But this is just sending him a message plain and clear.

And IMO he did NOT have a "horrible" year. Dude just needs to get down with his tackling. That's fine. He will now have had an offseason in the system.
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dfosterf
12 years ago
Cut Bush.

He's a friggin' liability, damn near every play.

I hate that guy in coverage. He couldn't cover a friggin' sunrise if he was a rooster.

Hate, hate hate.


Sorry , I can't find my green and gold goggles.

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Sam Shields gets this year to prove himself, imo Call it a bonus for his rookie seasn and his obvious potential.

Sam= potential=one more year, that is it.


imo
DoddPower
12 years ago

Ha ha, they're just sending him a message. No way Bush starts over him.

If it was Heyward or House in front of him, I'd view that as a threat. But this is just sending him a message plain and clear.

And IMO he did NOT have a "horrible" year. Dude just needs to get down with his tackling. That's fine. He will now have had an offseason in the system.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well, he damn sure didn't have a GOOD year. Not even close. At least he's not alone.
wpr
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12 years ago

Cut Bush.

He's a friggin' liability, damn near every play.

I hate that guy in coverage. He couldn't cover a friggin' sunrise if he was a rooster.

Hate, hate hate.


Sorry , I can't find my green and gold goggles.

[boxing]

Sam Shields gets this year to prove himself, imo Call it a bonus for his rookie seasn and his obvious potential.

Sam= potential=one more year, that is it.


imo

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



don't hold back tell us what you really think.

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DakotaT
12 years ago
Bush shouldn't do anything but be our special teams ace. I hate his ass on defense too. I'd like to see House get the nod to be perfectly honest. He's bigger and stronger, and hopefully he doesn't tackle like a pussy like Shields.
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wpr
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12 years ago

Bush shouldn't do anything but be our special teams ace. I hate his ass on defense too. I'd like to see House get the nod to be perfectly honest. He's bigger and stronger, and hopefully he doesn't tackle like a pussy like Shields.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



seems like a lot of those coverage boys are all speed and have no tackling ability.
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Wade
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12 years ago

seems like a lot of those coverage boys are all speed and have no tackling ability.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



It's the Deion Sanders influence.


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12 years ago

It's the Deion Sanders influence.

Originally Posted by: Wade 

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I almost said "beginning with Neon Deon" but skipped it. I decided someone else before Sanders couldn't tackle either.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
You can take the easy way out and blame Deion Sanders, but bottom line the blame lies with endorsement deals. How many endorsement deals do you see with a guy on crutches or in a sling or black eye or something else that could happen from tackling?

Funny thing about Deion Sanders. He once stated he could tackle, but chose not to because he didn't like his jersey getting dirty. I say okay, fine, but explain your time with the Falcons and Cowboys when you played on turf.
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