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12 years ago
What's a 30 burger?


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zombieslayer
12 years ago

What's a 30 burger?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I think that's what White Castle sells. We don't have White Castles on the Left Coast so I couldn't tell you.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
If Worthy or whoever(Neal, Hargrove) is a consistently good pass rusher personel/positions could change. He could play a 3-4 with Woodson as a LB.
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beast
12 years ago

I'm pretty sure they ran 2-4 nickle around 70% in 2010 as well so I don't think it's just because of the d-line or teams playing catch up. Capers just likes that formation.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



I don't know how often they ran it, but I thought I read it was under 65% in other years and this year was over 70%

What's a 30 burger?

Originally Posted by: Wade 


I just assumed he meant Rodgers and the offense scoring 30 points or more most games.




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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I don't know how often they ran it, but I thought I read it was under 65% in other years and this year was over 70%


I just assumed he meant Rodgers and the offense scoring 30 points or more most games.

Originally Posted by: beast 



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gbguy20
12 years ago

My explanation is ... its my opinion. I think they go into the season fully with that plan, however when Aaron Rodgers and team continue to drop 30-burgers it'll force opposing offenses to run heavy pass schemes in which the Packers will have to battle that with Nickel-type defenses.

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evad04
12 years ago
Well, I'm not sure about the personnel used but I'd bet everything in my pockets that Green Bay features a Nickel alignment at least 50% of the time. It's a passer's league, and our own offense puts up points -- forcing opposing offenses to air it out.
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DoddPower
12 years ago

I disagree with that a bit because the 2-4 nickel basically is a 4-2 as the DTs are on the inside and the OLBers move very close to the line and work like stand up 4-2 DEs. And when they want to run a 4-3, like they did against the Eagles in the playoffs, they just move Woodson to a LB type position, which they had him at to help chase down Vick.

Originally Posted by: beast 



It's "basically" the same, but that alignment is just a part of the tradition 3-4 scheme, so one can't call it a hybrid with a 4-3, really. I mean, defense is defense and everyone runs similar things. But when a team has two OLB's standing, it is quite a bit different in terms of technique of rushing the passer and personnel. The outside rushers technique will be that of a 3-4 scheme and not a 4-3. That's fine, it doesn't matter to me. It's just I thought at times with Kampman they should have allowed him to rush from his traditional technique sometimes rather than forcing him to adjust his technique 100%. The differences may not be monumental, but they are still significant. I think it would help Perry to slowly transition to the technique of a 3-4 OLB rather than forcing him to adjust his game all at once.

But to my point about hybrid defense, I do remember Capers running a 5 defensive linemen package at times . . . but I think that was in 2010 against the likes of the Falcons? I appreciate that type of creativity. I think it'd be neat to see some nickle packages with both Clay and Perry's hands on the ground, even if only occasionally (or at least one of them). It just mixes things up more and makes the offense and especially the offensive line think about even more techniques to attempt to counter. Specifically, Baltimore and the Patriots have done this type of thing often. For athletes like CM3 and Perry, dropping into short zones from the 3-point stance should be no problem. Several 4-3 teams run those types of zone-blitzes every week. I think doing everything possible to take advantage of specific mathup's is key. It will be an interesting season defensively as Caper's will have more freedom to be creative.

DoddPower
12 years ago

Well, I'm not sure about the personnel used but I'd bet everything in my pockets that Green Bay features a Nickel alignment at least 50% of the time. It's a passer's league, and our own offense puts up points -- forcing opposing offenses to air it out.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



Yeah, this echo's my thoughts exactly. Whether they run more base defense or not, sub packages will still take the majority, unless for some reason our offense starts to suck and we play more close hard nose games, which I don't see happening. Sub packages generally allow a defensive coordinator to get his best athletes on the field. Who wouldn't want to get to those packages whenever reasonable and possible? Replacing a guy like Pickett who is good at stopping the run but not much else with someone like Shields/Hayward/House or maybe even another line backer is a good thing, at least in terms of stopping the pass.

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