Anthony Hargrove Suspended 8 games.· Page 5

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

Anyone can have principles when the consequences of following them are small. The real indicator of principles is what you do when the consequences of following them are big.

I don't claim to always make the right decision in such cases. Only saints do that.

But I just don't think "I would have been done in the NFL" is enough of a justification for a lessening of the punishment.

Originally Posted by: Wade

I thought the real indicator of principles is doing something good regardless of others knowing about it or not.

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#42

Wasn't this statement from an earlier statement released before the punishment? I don't think this is something he's JUST now saying in hopes of getting a reduced punishment. It's part of his original release which the press was finally able to get their hands on. PFT wrote an article today describing the situation and how Hargrove isn't as bad as it seems (although not clear of guilt, obviously). I honestly haven't read much about it because I really don't care, but I don't think Hargrove is trying to weasel out of anything, necessarily.

Originally Posted by: doddpower

That could be. And one certainly cannot rely on the media getting things accurate.

Hargrove may well have good reasons for an appeal. I'm just saying that "they made me do it" isn't one of them.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#43

I thought the real indicator of principles is doing something good regardless of others knowing about it or not.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That, too.

In fact, it might be true that all "telling people about your good deeds" might do is argue against you having the wrong principles.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

DoddPower
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#44

I don't want to take the debate any further, but I'm a firm believer that there is no such thing as a selfless action, not that there's anything wrong with that.

As for Hargrove, I don't blame him trying to do whatever it takes to get back on the field. He's already admitted he had SOMETHING to do with it, but there's no harm in attempting to make the commissioner re-think his case and perhaps reduce the punishment a game or so. I hope he does because I think Hargrove can be a difference maker for a few snaps a game off the bench. Solid depth, especially if he's motivated and pissed off.

Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#45

Originally Posted by: Wade

Or in this case, they don't. It's obviously much scarier when your job is on the line, but you have a players union that is supposedly there to protect you against this sort of backlash, and the longer you go along with such a bounty program the more harm you're doing to YOURSELF.

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