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12 years ago

If you trust politicians to do what is right you will get F-ed in the end.

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Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yup.

That's not even the half of the story, either. The GOP is claiming that there will be FAR more votes with their plan and they are supposedly in caucus with Dayton, Rybak (MPLS mayor who initially stated he and MPLS wants nothing to do with the GOP's stadium bill) and DFL leaders. They are really confident that at least the Mayor will be in favor of this 'new' bill.

Strike up the band.. I told you so!
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DakotaT
12 years ago

Yup.

That's not even the half of the story, either. The GOP is claiming that there will be FAR more votes with their plan and they are supposedly in caucus with Dayton, Rybak (MPLS mayor who initially stated he and MPLS wants nothing to do with the GOP's stadium bill) and DFL leaders. They are really confident that at least the Mayor will be in favor of this 'new' bill.

Strike up the band.. I told you so!

Originally Posted by: Formo 



I hope they build it downtown, because that is one hell of a good time partying for a couple days down there. You'll probably get this done in the final hour, with the help of the NFL, but the lack of planned structure for this stadium really makes your state a subject of mockery.

Anyway, I'm just glad Ziggy didn't get his way and put the stadium out in Bumbfuck Egypt where he owned everything around it. My opinion is that the Vikings should be locally owned, not an east coast millionairs little play toy.

Good luck Jeremy, we'll watch our game together in your new stadium.
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Formo
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12 years ago
Sounds like more details are coming out and being hashed.. Both sides (the GOP bill makers, Gov. Dayton, MPLS, and the first bill's makers) have been saying that there is a good-faith works going into this new bill that supposedly has huge GOP support. Not quite sure what to make of this new bill as I was mostly in favor of the first one. I am upset that they continue to delay this thing that should have been taken care of years ago.

I hope they build it downtown, because that is one hell of a good time partying for a couple days down there. You'll probably get this done in the final hour, with the help of the NFL, but the lack of planned structure for this stadium really makes your state a subject of mockery.

Anyway, I'm just glad Ziggy didn't get his way and put the stadium out in Bumbfuck Egypt where he owned everything around it. My opinion is that the Vikings should be locally owned, not an east coast millionairs little play toy.

Good luck Jeremy, we'll watch our game together in your new stadium.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Bumbfuck Egypt?! Arden Hills is a 15 minute drive, TOPS from MPLS and probably would have zero effect on drive time from the many ND Viking fans (and your dumb ass). You are right in that the state and MPLS will get more from whichever deal they may strike if it's built downtown. In my ideal world, Zigy builds it himself (no state/local money) in Arden Hills and Minnesotans learn how to tailgate.
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I don't get a vote but I would have liked to see the new stadium in Arden Hills. I don't care who builds it. The have some unproductive land there. Better to build a stadium on it where people will only be there a few hours a week than to put condos or a shopping mall there where someone could spend a 100 or hours more a week. They may say that they will get all the toxic residue out of the land but I am more than a little skeptical.
Plus as Formo says more room for ancillary activities such as tailgating in Arden than downtown.
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gbguy20
12 years ago
Arden Hills would have been a prime location for the stadium. Its on the outskirts of the city, nothing bumfuck about it.
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12 years ago
The bill on the House floor, after getting nearly a record amount of amendments, passed with 73 yeses. This means it will hit the Senate floor tomorrow at 9am.

A few of the amendments are rumored to be 'deal killers' for the Vikings. I don't think they'll pass on the opportunity, though. That said, there's still a LOT of likely changes to be happening at the Senate floor and then, if passed by the Senate, will go into the conference committee to hash out the differences that may be made between the Senate and the House. Most of you probably already know this, but just in case, now you know.
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12 years ago
good luck.. too bad some real @sshol I mean politicians have to screw around. Vote yes or vote no whatever you believe to be right. don't add stupid amendments that pollute the whole thing.
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dfosterf
12 years ago
It is fun to watch Minnesota self-destruct over this. It will now be a classic "fly-over" state, and this is as it should have been all along.


Fargo was a good movie.

Appreciate the iron ore.

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12 years ago



Appreciate the iron ore.

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Iron ore what????[grin1]
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago
I kind of like the idea of the Arden Hills site because it was an ordinance plant. There might be some live ordinance buried around there somewhere.

I can see it now.

Paul Allen "Ponder step up under center, takes the snap. He drops back to pass and...BOOOOOM"
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Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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