Cheesey
13 years ago
Dingus, i haven't contradicted myself ONE BIT.
I have stated that I MYSELF haven't seen any evidence to convict or NOT convict.
But the professionals that DO have that job HAVE seen the evidence. THEY are the ones that make the decision of whether to charge a crime or not charge.
And THEY decided there wasn't enough evidence to charge.

How is that me being contradictory???

As far as "racism". I myself was raised to judge people based on WHO they are, not the color of their skin.
However, as Porforis stated, even us "white folk" are "treated" to racism all the time. It seems that if you are white, and treated badly for it, it's "acceptable".
I also have been treated badly several times by other races.
Racism is alive and well.....from ALL races.
Anyone that has consistantly read my posts knows how i feel about racism. I HATE it, but it will never be stamped out. Especially since great people like Martin Luther King JR. get assassinated, and racists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are here to make SURE racism doesn't die.
Like i have said MANY times, there is a double standard. If a black kid wears a shirt that says he's proud of his black heritage, they will pat him on the back and say how great that is. If i wore a "proud to be white" shirt, i'd be immediatly labled a racist.
To me, you should be more concerned on what kind of a person YOU are then who your ancestors were.
(No, i'm NOT saying you should forget where your roots are, just that WHAT/WHO YOU are is much more important and should be your priority)
Am i being contradictory again?
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
13 years ago
Oh....forgot to say.....I saw Zimmerman's brother on TV last night. He stated there WAS an eye witness that saw the whole thing, and that person backed what Zimmerman said.
Just another piece of this horrible puzzle.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
They enhanced the video and you could see two "gashes" on the adult's head, at least, that's what they just said on the radio a little bit ago.
UserPostedImage
dingus
13 years ago
Cheesey, the contradiction lies in the fact that you take the statements given by the powers that be as fact and assume that everything's above board.

In your original post you mention that there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to charge him with a crime, if there was he'd be in prison because of the heat that the "racists" Sharpton & Jackson are applying and then go on to say "let's face the truth... there was more evidence that OJ murdered his wife then there is against Zimmerman."

contradictions. You haven't seen the evidence. You don't know. Yet the racists are trying to convince us that there's something fishy. contradictions.

I'm sure you do hate racism, I'll take your word. But hating racism and understanding the systemic abuse of minorities are two different things. This young man, Trayvon Martin, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And any one of us when faced with someone following us around a neighborhood we had every right to be in could very well have chosen the option that Zimmerman says Martin did, confront your "stalker" and defend yourself. If that is what happened. And the sad fact that archaic laws such as the "stand your ground" travesty in Florida exist is all the more proof that we as a country can't seem to pull our collective heads out of our asses long enough to move forward. That is what truly sickens me.

Nonstops article is where these laws should be. If someone comes into your home you stand your ground. Unfortunately, we have a bunch of wannabe vigilantes running around armed with silly laws on the books that make these tragedies possible.

I'm not even going to touch your black pride, white pride argument. If you don't see the difference or understand the sentiment by now I'd just be wasting words.

I don't want to continue a pissing match about Race. I'm sorry I called you out, it's not my place.
blank
Formo
13 years ago

This young man, Trayvon Martin, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And any one of us when faced with someone following us around a neighborhood we had every right to be in could very well have chosen the option that Zimmerman says Martin did, confront your "stalker" and defend yourself. If that is what happened.

Originally Posted by: dingus 



If that is what happened, you are telling me that it's perfectly ok to confront a person stalking you with a fist to the face/nose? If Zimmerman started the physical altercation, then he most definitely deserved the beating he apparently got.

There is just too much of a gray area in this case right now (at least the specifics that the media has reported).

I guess I don't have a problem so much with the 'Stand your Ground' law as you do. I can see how it can be abused, obviously. But the flip side of the coin is (another hypothetical) if Zimmerman approached Martin, asked him a question and got a beat down in return. When his head bounced off the pavement, he most certainly would have been fearing for his life, at least his well being. Gun goes off and we have a dead teen, unfortunately. The 'Stand Your Ground' law would have worked in that scenario.

I don't think Zimmerman is as devoid of a crime as I may have presented. I'm still formulating my opinion as more information is revealed.

I only got interested in this case because of the Miami Heat players going all 'hoodie' on Twitter.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Formo
13 years ago

They enhanced the video and you could see two "gashes" on the adult's head, at least, that's what they just said on the radio a little bit ago.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-case-video-shows-injury-george-zimmermans/story?id=16055412 

The enhanced video. You can see some markings on the back of his head. Not sure if they are shadows or gashes or bumps.. But there IS something there. Not to mention you can see an officer take interest in the back of his head at one point of the video.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the adult was following him, later gets out of his vehicle, confronts the kid and gets popped in the face after asking a question, regardless of the question. Because the adult has already intimidated the kid by following him and has the kid scared.

There's a big difference from simply walking up to someone on the street asking a question versus following them in the middle of the night in a car and then getting out an approaching them.

The adult was/is a SELF APPOINTED neighborhood watch person ... is that true?
UserPostedImage
dingus
13 years ago
Yes Zero, from what I've read he was self appointed/not affiliated with any sanctioned Neighborhood Watch program. I've also read that he'd made upwards of 50 calls to the police in the last year or two.

I've also heard he was a failed police officer candidate.


blank
Formo
13 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised one bit if the adult was following him, later gets out of his vehicle, confronts the kid and gets popped in the face after asking a question, regardless of the question. Because the adult has already intimidated the kid by following him and has the kid scared.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I stopped caring what you say after this. Sorry bruh.


UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (1h) : Golden with two TDs in red zone drills today
Mucky Tundra (2h) : @JacobMorley Shoutout to Quinn Ewers for allowing Matthew Golden to be available when Green Bay picked.
Zero2Cool (6h) : The menu you expanded to log in, it's the first icon under "PackersHome" .. maybe i should add text to it
dfosterf (6h) : Feelin' pfowish can't find the sun. No big deal, will drag a laptop out when the time comes
Zero2Cool (6h) : if you're on mobile, open the menu and its the "sun" icon
dfosterf (6h) : Can't find the toggle, lol
dfosterf (6h) : I can find that the Microsoft lady rep for Titletown Tech is the philanthropy boss for the entire Microsoft corporation, but. .
Zero2Cool (6h) : There's a toggle for light/dark theme. Super easy.
dfosterf (7h) : The white background beta was hard to read, especially the quotes
dfosterf (7h) : Hopefully the color scheme remains the same
dfosterf (7h) : *Friday*
dfosterf (7h) : 100 million would be 539 million as of Fridsy
dfosterf (7h) : Heck, they could have taken a hundred milliion and invested in DAVE inc. last year (semi random, humor, but real)
dfosterf (7h) : Beer brat and ticket is where the money comes from
dfosterf (7h) : The 40th is Titletown Tech itself. This is a pet project of both Ed Policy and Mark Murphy
Zero2Cool (7h) : New site coming along nicely. The editor is better than what we have here. Oh yeah!
dfosterf (7h) : No profit that I know of. 0 for 40
dfosterf (7h) : The woke reference has to do with the makeup and oftentimes objectives of the companies they invested in
packerfanoutwest (7h) : beer and brats woke? say whom?
beast (8h) : I don't want to get into politics, but how is, beers and brats considered to be "woke"? Food is food...
beast (8h) : That being said, I'm not saying all 100% should be that way, but not surprised if majority are Wisconsin based
beast (8h) : And if everyone has heard of them, then it it probably has less growth potential and less community based
beast (8h) : Well isn't the investing person supposed to invest the money?
dfosterf (8h) : I swear if I were to discover that one of them has invented a virtue signalling transmitter I will not be surprised, lol
dfosterf (8h) : 39 companies so far that I bet no one has ever heard of.
dfosterf (8h) : -Not saying woke, but should- borderline philanthopist venture capital excercise
dfosterf (8h) : Well for one, they are pouring resources into Title Town Tech. Investing beer, brat, hot dog, ticket money into what is pretty much...
beast (15h) : Wow, 95% drop in investment revenue? Would be interesting to hear the details of why...
dfosterf (25-Jul) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : In your face, HBO!
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: “A great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.”
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : *years
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates “many Packers games” being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea
dfosterf (25-Jul) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Maybe a low flying drone
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career
Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim
Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )
dfosterf (25-Jul) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?
Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Savion concussion ... not good.
packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing
Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name
Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
6h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Jul / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

25-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

25-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

24-Jul / Around The NFL / beast

24-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

22-Jul / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

22-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.