Citing an internal NFL memo sent to all 32 teams about the bounty scandal, CBSSports.com reported that Ornstein on at least four occasions pledged rewards of $5,000 to $10,000 to the Saints' bounty pool from 2009 to 2011.

Among the 18,000 documents league investigators examined is an email from Ornstein to Saints' coaches last season in which he pledged money for a knockout blow to Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers before the NFL kickoff game, according to a source familiar with the situation.

That same source insists Ornstein sent the message in jest. Payton reportedly told NFL investigators last week he did not read the email.

Whether the NFL buys either claim remains to be seen. This isn't a court of law. The league can and will rule on its own volition.

fine the saints millions and ban them from this years draft.

Originally Posted by: flep 

fine the saints millions and ban them from this years draft.

Originally Posted by: flep 

If they take draft choices away, and want it to mean anything, they need to limit their opportunity to sign free agents also. Otherwise they just redirect money they would have used in the draft to sign free agents.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 

One could look back to one Charles Martin and his "hit list" to know this is nothing new.

I had to laugh at hearing Ditka talk about playing a clean game, yet he employed and allowed Buddy's defenses to skate along the line of playing clean.

But it doesn't make it any more correct today than of years past.

Now.. if the Saints were definitely targeting Rodgers head, any players head or knees, yes the hammer should fall very hard upon them.

But playing clean and hitting hard within the rule book of the NFL, wagers included between players, well then I am sorry I don't see that is some royal injustice.

That is part of American culture.. wagering against each other in competition.. we do it all the damn time.

Heck, teams have incentives around sacks and picks built right into the contracts. The NFL not so long ago would profit from big hits and glorify players like Cecil, Waters, Lott and Tatum. Put together entire videos of crushing hits.

Sorry.. but that has been and probably will be part of the culture going forward.. sans anyone tying it to taking another player out.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

I'm one of the few people on this board (besides Formo and VR obviously) who was rooting for the Vikings in the '09 CG. Yes, I'm a non-apologetic Favre fan and AP is my favorite non-Packer. (I still like Wallie as my favorite non-Packer of all-time though. Sorry AP, but you're still no Wallie.)

Watching the game, I noticed the hits were especially brutal. Sacking the QB is important as sacks usually end drives and sometimes result in turnovers. Intentionally trying to harm another football player however should result in a ban and a hefty fine.

Now the game has been played and I don't believe in changing the result. However, the former DC of the Saints should be fined heavily and the players who participated should be fined not as heavily but they should be banned for X number of games, to be determined by the commissioner.

As for 🇦🇷, I'm glad he has become an NFL favorite as nasty hits on 🇦🇷 seemed to be tolerated until 2010.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer