"Mike McCarthy needs to go!"· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

The weak defense, I'll put the majority (not ALL) blame on Ted Thompson and then Dom Capers. I'm not going to fault Thompson for not signing Cullen Jenkins because his demands were high until he realized no one was really interested outside of the Saints and Eagles. I read the Packers matched or added to the Eagles contract offer, but Jenkins declined. I believe that to be true based on Jenkins choice of words after the signing. No question, Jenkins was hurt (maybe just pride) that the Packers didn't talk contract before free agency.

With that out of the way, I think it was obvious the Packers needed an OLB prior to the 2011 season. What was the congincency plan if (err when) Mike Neal fails to adequately replace Cullen Jenkins? By no means am I saying to fire Ted Thompson. I just think he dropped the ball a bit. I can kind of understand why ... since the defense the prior two years was getting the job done.

I'm really interested to see what happens this off season. If there is no major move ( Round 1 or 2 selection ) to fill DE or OLB, I'll be a bit disappointed. Hey, I was going to say if they don't bring anyone in via Free Agency, but who the fuck am I kidding?

Cheesey
Preferred Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#12

The only complaint i have with Ted Thompson is that he doesn't want to pay guys. He could have resigned Jenkins early, then he wouldn't have felt "hurt" and gone to another team.

Of course i know hindsight is 20/20. But the void was obviously HUGE.

Usually the Packers winning 15 regular season games would seem huge. But doing nothing in the post season just wiped out any good feelings i had about the season.

If they had played well and lost, i wouldn't feel this way.

get_louder_at_lambeau
Registered

13 years ago

#13

The only complaint i have with Ted Thompson is that he doesn't want to pay guys.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Yeah, that's just not even close to true. Ask Woodson. Ask Hawk. Ask Tramon. Ask Clifton. The list goes on...

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

The problem with signing him early is Cullen Jenkins agent wanted huge bucks. It wasn't until only two teams came knocking that Jenkins lowered his "wants". Thompson played THAT portion of the negotiation properly.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#15

No rational Packers fan could possibly believe that this highly successful young head coach should be fired. He ain't perfect but he is damn good as his track recod shows since became Green Bays Head Coach.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#16

none of the front line Giants left early. They were ready for the onside kick.

as far as firing Coach Mike? not even worth addressing. Even if he was the reason they lost the game everyone has a bad day. don't say fire him because of it. They won 15 games with a weak defense.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Exactly my point, the Giants were ready for it because it's a tendency.

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zombieslayer
Registered

13 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Let's judge him by his peers. Only Bellichick currently has more SB wins and 🇲🇲 is amongst the highest in winning %. He's at .659 right now during regular season and is 5-2 in Playoff games in 6 seasons as our HC.

Sean Payton is neck and neck with 🇲🇲. Mike Tomlin is slightly better. Tom Coughlin is worse than 🇲🇲.

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evad04
Member

13 years ago

#18

That playoff record can't be right. Losses against Arizona, and New York twice. I agree with the sentiment, though. McCarthy is a good coach, no matter how people like nerdmann pivot in their criticisms. Used to be he sucked because of ______ reason, and now it's because he doesn't get his teams emotionally ready.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: evad04

Seahawks WIN
Giants LOSS
Cardinals LOSS
Eagles WIN
Falcons WIN
Bears WIN
Steelers WIN
Giants LOSS

5 - 3 sound more accurate? I don't know if I've missed a game or two, but those are the ones I remember off the top of my squash.

TexasPackerFan
Registered

13 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That is correct.

My main issue with the end of this season was I feel there was too much rest. Rodgers should have played the first quarter or even first half of the Lions game.

When you think about it a lot of our guys had 3 weeks rest and came out flat. Sure we had turn overs and they got a lucky hail mary but we came out with no fire at all and the Giants were red hot the same way we were last year during playoff time. A team that had rested for 3 weeks against a team that had been in playoff mode for about a month at that time the outcome wasn't surprising.

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