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12 years ago
I saw that in this weeks "Packer Plus" paper, written by some "fan". He was ripping on how the Packer/Giants game was called. He ripped on the onside kick, and other calls.

It amazes me that people forget WHO was the coach that lead the Packers to the SB 45 win.

Plus, in my opinion, Mike McCarthy knew that his defense sucked and could'nt stop the Giants, and was desperate to try to get control of the game. If it had worked, MAYBE it would have turned the game around.
Plus he saw that his offense was not doing it's normal amazing work.

Think about the few plays that could have changed the outcome.
The hail mary, Grant's fumble that was returned inside the Packers 5 and then scored a few seconds later. That's 14 points for NY.
The 2 missed open Packer receivers that would have been TD's. Instead, the one play, the ball is knocked out of AR's hand and recovered by NY.
NY, take away the 14 points, leaves them with 23.
Add the 2 TD's the Packers should have not screwed up on, and they have 34 points.

Yes, i know it's all "coulda woulda shouda"......but hey, it COULDA been! LOL!

All Ted Thompson can be ripped on in my opinion is that he should have NEVER let Jenkins go. HUGE mistake which also could have changed the season in our favor.
Add the injury to Nick Collins, the declining play of most of our defense, and you get the same thing the N.O Saints keep getting. An early out in the playoffs.
Hopefully Ted Thompson will get his you-know-what together and get a pass rusher and someone that knows how to TACKLE!
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12 years ago

He ripped on the onside kick...
...Plus, in my opinion, Mike McCarthy knew that his defense sucked and could'nt stop the Giants, and was desperate to try to get control of the game. If it had worked, MAYBE it would have turned the game around.
Plus he saw that his offense was not doing it's normal amazing work.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



The surprise onside kick is just McCarthy's way. He has done it many times before, and has had pretty good success with it. I think he just likes the aggressive nature of it. That, or his stats guy told him the odds are good doing surprise onside kicks. Or both. I don't think it really has much to do with desperation.
nerdmann
12 years ago
My problem with Mike is that he's not good at having his team emotionally or psychologically ready. We saw it a couple years ago in Arizona and we saw it again in the Giants game.

Sure, we had a great run to the Superbowl, but not before we had our backs completely to the wall and had to win out just to MAKE the playoffs.

Should he be shitcanned? No. But it's definitely something that I'd like to see him develop, as a coach.
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12 years ago
I love his aggressiveness. I love his playcalling.

But one thing 🇲🇲 needs to do sometimes is actually get on the field and catch some passes to show how it's done. Kind of like if Mike Ditka was actually playing for da Bears, they'd win the SB every single year.
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12 years ago

My problem with Mike is that he's not good at having his team emotionally or psychologically ready. We saw it a couple years ago in Arizona and we saw it again in the Giants game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well, he's an offensive coach, and they scored 45 points that day, so I'm not sure that's a realistic criticism.
blueleopard
12 years ago

Well, he's an offensive coach, and they scored 45 points that day, so I'm not sure that's a realistic criticism.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



Seriously. What the hell. The Arizona game definitely wasn't McCarthy's fault.

Hell, we could've won that game if the refs saw the facemask.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Seriously. What the hell. The Arizona game definitely wasn't McCarthy's fault.

Hell, we could've won that game if the refs saw the facemask.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 


We played them the week before, without their starters, and beat them. Then they got all confident like that meant they'd beat them WITH their starters. The same thing happened in the preseason that year, iirc. Forget the team.

Fact is, the defense is always at least as good as the sum of it's parts. The offense usually underperforms for at least a quarter or two every week. And particularly so in that game against the Giants.
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

My problem with Mike is that he's not good at having his team emotionally or psychologically ready. We saw it a couple years ago in Arizona and we saw it again in the Giants game.

Sure, we had a great run to the Superbowl, but not before we had our backs completely to the wall and had to win out just to MAKE the playoffs.

Should he be shitcanned? No. But it's definitely something that I'd like to see him develop, as a coach.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He also took a young team with a lot of injuries into the Superbowl (where they happened to lose 2 of their most veteran players) and beat a veteran team with superbowl experience. They didn't even look like the young team that day they looked like a confident emotionally ready team.
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gbguy20
12 years ago

The surprise onside kick is just McCarthy's way. He has done it many times before, and has had pretty good success with it. I think he just likes the aggressive nature of it. That, or his stats guy told him the odds are good doing surprise onside kicks. Or both. I don't think it really has much to do with desperation.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 




This is becoming the problem. As I noted in another thread, if the Giants weren't told to stay put and be ready for an onside kick throughout the entire game, then they had not been paying attention to our tendencies. Every team should be ready for surprise onside kicks vs us in the playoffs now.
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12 years ago

This is becoming the problem. As I noted in another thread, if the Giants weren't told to stay put and be ready for an onside kick throughout the entire game, then they had not been paying attention to our tendencies. Every team should be ready for surprise onside kicks vs us in the playoffs now.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



none of the front line Giants left early. They were ready for the onside kick.

as far as firing Coach Mike? not even worth addressing. Even if he was the reason they lost the game everyone has a bad day. don't say fire him because of it. They won 15 games with a weak defense.
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