RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
I have a general beef against the "drop" statistic. It's like the "error" in baseball, its subjective and depends on who's keeping score. Like that pass on 3rd down to Finley by Rodgers, may be Finley screwed up the route or may be Rodgers threw it way too hard but how can that be a drop. In the replays I saw it seems to hit his finger tips on ONE of his hands at 1000 mph. There is no one in the NFL that can catch a pass that hits your fingertips that fast on one hand - again, may be the play is all Finley's fault for the route but that's a "drop". Also that "drop" on the Ryan Grant throw. It was behind him and by the time he reached behind to get it, he got smoked before he even had a chance to secure it. How many times is that kind of pass caught? Should we also create a statistic for spectacular catches from bad throws by the QB - so a "anti-drop" statistic that would measure the value of the WR? It sounds crazy, but it seems to be just as subjective as an "error" or "drop".
blank
Rios39
13 years ago

I have a general beef against the "drop" statistic. It's like the "error" in baseball, its subjective and depends on who's keeping score. Like that pass on 3rd down to Finley by Rodgers, may be Finley screwed up the route or may be Rodgers threw it way too hard but how can that be a drop. In the replays I saw it seems to hit his finger tips on ONE of his hands at 1000 mph. There is no one in the NFL that can catch a pass that hits your fingertips that fast on one hand - again, may be the play is all Finley's fault for the route but that's a "drop". Also that "drop" on the Ryan Grant throw. It was behind him and by the time he reached behind to get it, he got smoked before he even had a chance to secure it. How many times is that kind of pass caught? Should we also create a statistic for spectacular catches from bad throws by the QB - so a "anti-drop" statistic that would measure the value of the WR? It sounds crazy, but it seems to be just as subjective as an "error" or "drop".

Originally Posted by: RedSoxExcel 




Finley had no shot at that ball. Even if he caught it he was laying out flat the ball would have obviously hit the ground.

Agreed on the Grant one too. No way he was going to catch that.. Finley had a lot of muffs this year but a lot of cases Aaron has been throwing him tough balls. He catches Flynn better because Flynn puts more touch on the ball. Aaron when he sees a guy open he drives the ball 100 MPH which is needed for some throws but It maybe is overdone in some cases.

The Jennings route he didn't even give Jennings a chance. Sure Jennings may have been running the wrong way but if Rodgers just lays it up there and lets him maybe run under it a bit, maybe he catches it? Rodgers throws everything flat and hard, tries to hit them right on a line which is good in certain scenarios but it's my one issue with Rodgers when he is throwing.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I don't think any one of those passes was marked as a drop by the statisticians.

Personally, I define a "drop" as when the intended receiver gets both hands on the ball or the ball hits him right in the body and he fails to complete pass. I don't think every pass that gets close to the receiver should count as a drop.
UserPostedImage
RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
I saw a montage of the "drops" on TV and they included those two in the 8 drops. I am not sure though. I would think those are in there, otherwise I don't think you get to 8.
blank
DanJustDan29
13 years ago
I think Finley should get a "drop" for that because he slowed down on his route. Aaron Rodgers mouthed, "Run the F'ing Route..."
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another. -Vince Lombardi
dhazer
13 years ago

I think Finley should get a "drop" for that because he slowed down on his route. Aaron Rodgers mouthed, "Run the F'ing Route..."

Originally Posted by: DanJustDan29 



Finley was wide open why try leading him when you need a first down just hit him in the numbers. Rodgers was off all day yesterday enough said about it.

As far as the drops I heard people saying Jennings dropped the one TD but cmon that would have been a very nice catch with the defender right there.

The offense dropped the ball yesterday and it cost us. I was actually ok with the defense Besides the hail mary at the half and the bad tackling on the first Hicks td they played very well yesterday.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (1h) : Damn
Martha Careful (3h) : Saints are re-signing DE Chase Young to a three-year, $51 million deal worth up to $57 million.
Martha Careful (3h) : 49ers releasing FB Juszcyk any interest?
Zero2Cool (4h) : digits of four
Zero2Cool (4h) : four digits
Zero2Cool (5h) : Eh, don't think so. better to split
Zero2Cool (5h) : on new site, would Fan Shout and GameDay Chat show same messages?
Mucky Tundra (5h) : The Hall of Fame stuff probably came from a scout as Zero said; at this point though it's hard to see them moving ZT from RT
Mucky Tundra (5h) : Regarding ZT at C, Gute had said he felt C was ZTs best position after he was drafted.
Zero2Cool (6h) : LB Oren Burks to sign a 2-year, $5M deal with the Bengals.
Zero2Cool (6h) : Based on how it was worded at the time, probably scout.
beast (6h) : I don't think the media person ever told the public the source, but Gute or LaFleur did say they thought Tom has earned his spot at OT
beast (6h) : I think it was supposedly unnamed Packers source
buckeyepackfan (6h) : Was that Gute or Lefleur or someone else?
buckeyepackfan (6h) : Zach Tom could be a really good guard, an all pro tackle, but probably be a HOF Center. Who said that?
Zero2Cool (7h) : It's March 10th. I don't think anything is done.
Martha Careful (7h) : if we think CB is done, we have a poor roster
Mucky Tundra (7h) : CB and OG in FA, narrows down the top of the draft board a little
Martha Careful (8h) : Meh....I hope we can get Ward 49ers or Murphy Vikings
Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes
Martha Careful (8h) : did Nate Hobbs just sign with us CB Raiders?
Zero2Cool (8h) : Jets have agreed to terms with former Ravens CB Brandon Stephens
Zero2Cool (8h) : Aaron Banks’ PFF grade was 0.1 worse than Elgton Jenkins last year.
Zero2Cool (8h) : Muwahaha
Zero2Cool (8h) : Oh awesome! Nostrawrongus says 4th so SUPER BOWL ON TRACK!!
dhazer (8h) : to be honest the freee agent market isnt that great this year so I can handle a 500 yr or sub 500 is fine, i see us as 4th in division
dhazer (8h) : Hi Dave long time no see
Mucky Tundra (9h) : Slaton to the Begals=Guaranteed Big Boy in the first 3 rounds
Mucky Tundra (9h) : WE SIGNED SOMEONE!!!!!!1!
Zero2Cool (9h) : Former #Packers DT TJ Slaton headed to the #Bengals on a 2-year $15.1M deal.
Zero2Cool (9h) : 4-year $77M for Packers new guard Aaron Banks
Zero2Cool (9h) : OL Patrick Mekari to sign with the Jaguars.
Zero2Cool (9h) : oops
Zero2Cool (9h) : Josh Sweat to Cardinals
Martha Careful (9h) : Josh Sweat to the Arizona Cardinals.
Mucky Tundra (9h) : Surprises the Seahawks signed Darnold for that money
buckeyepackfan (9h) : Depends on what Kupp is igned for.
Martha Careful (9h) : The Bears are adding to their defensive line. Chicago is signing former Colts pass-rusher Dayo Odeyingbo to a three-year, $48 million deal
Zero2Cool (10h) : Free agent DT Poona Ford to the #Rams on a 3-year, $30M
dfosterf (10h) : Imo cooper kupp is pretty much stupid money spending
Zero2Cool (10h) : Dayo Odeyingbo to the Bears
Zero2Cool (10h) : oops
Zero2Cool (10h) : CB Darius Slay to sign with the Steelers
buckeyepackfan (10h) : Justin Fields to The Jets!
Martha Careful (10h) : Justin Field to the Jets
buckeyepackfan (10h) : Cooper Kupp! After all the stupid money is spent.
Zero2Cool (10h) : Colts are signing Vikings S Cam Bynum
buckeyepackfan (10h) : "Stupid Money" week underway. Let's see if Gute can pluck another gem this year. #8 & #29 last year, who can it be this year? My money is on
Martha Careful (10h) : Former Eagles cornerback Darius Slay is signing with the Steelers, per Jordan Schultz.
Martha Careful (10h) : Sam Darnold is off to the Seattle Seahawks. It’s a three-year, $110.5 m 55m guaranteed.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

15h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.