millertime
13 years ago
I honestly think that this is what happen when you clinch a playoff spot with more than a month to go in the regular season. Our team hadn't played a meaningful game since. . . I actually can't remember.

I'll still always bleed green and gold, it's just sad to see them go down in a heaping pile of shit, instead of playing hard, honest football.
evad04
13 years ago
I respect the difference in opinion, but I really don't understand the theories about clinching early, or bye-week rust. They didn't play well. Pin the tail on the mistakes made, because that is a tangible exercise.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."
13 years ago

I just think our defense had an enourmous case of tiny nut syndrome all year. I expect them to come back very hungry next year. On offense, I think we are good to go even if Driver and Clifton retire. But next year McCarthy has to get more inventive with Cobb, but that weapon was underutilized. We have all the pieces in place to be very good for the long haul, but we lost this game by a team that was more hungry than we were.

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This was really my problem too. Everyone on defense seemed to play like they didn't want to mess up. The Giants game was more of the same, with tentative coverage. You could literally see guys fight their instincts and play it safe.

I'm a little concerned about the D scheme as well. I know it was successful in the past two years with Capers, but as other teams' coaches have alluded to, it's a bit predictable. The fact that our D-line are "space eaters" only adds to that. When you only have to consider pressure from a few places, you can put a body on those rushers and deal with it fairly easily. I'd like to see more freedom for the defensive linemen. I'm not worried about Neal yet except for injuries. He hasn't had any time to get into a groove playing with the injuries. I thought Brad Jones had one of the best game on defense today.

I think the draft will be more of the same, and rightly so. Go after the best player available and keep building the team.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

I just think our defense had an enourmous case of tiny nut syndrome all year. I expect them to come back very hungry next year. On offense, I think we are good to go even if Driver and Clifton retire. But next year McCarthy has to get more inventive with Cobb, but that weapon was underutilized. We have all the pieces in place to be very good for the long haul, but we lost this game by a team that was more hungry than we were.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


The problem on D was due to injuries. Who knows, maybe Neal will even come back at full strength. I'm still more worried about the offense. Agree on Cobb but he was a rookie this year. He'll be utilized more next year for sure.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
I am really worried about our Karma too, lol. We got two pretty insane calls (the Jennings "non-fumble" and the Rodgers "hit to the helmet" - which led to our only two touchdowns) and one pretty strange call (that spot the Giants got on that Bradshaw run at the 50). And we still lost. Now we are due for a game where it goes the opposite!
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DakotaT
13 years ago

I am really worried about our Karma too, lol. We got two pretty insane calls (the Jennings "non-fumble" and the Rodgers "hit to the helmet" - which led to our only two touchdowns) and one pretty strange call (that spot the Giants got on that Bradshaw run at the 50). And we still lost. Now we are due for a game where it goes the opposite!

Originally Posted by: RedSoxExcel 




You musn't have been around for the mid 90's when the 9ers and Cowboys got all the calls. Rice still fumbled, Irvin pushed off again and again! 😳 [grin1]

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RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

You musn't have been around for the mid 90's when the 9ers and Cowboys got all the calls. Rice still fumbled, Irvin pushed off again and again! 😳 [grin1]

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Don't remind of the Rice fumble! That play led to instant replay (at least in part) though. Young to Owens, I had to keep watching that cause of the Vernon Davis catch, so many bad memories. Why were the Packers safeties playing to defend the back of the end zone!
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nerdmann
13 years ago

I am really worried about our Karma too, lol. We got two pretty insane calls (the Jennings "non-fumble" and the Rodgers "hit to the helmet" - which led to our only two touchdowns) and one pretty strange call (that spot the Giants got on that Bradshaw run at the 50). And we still lost. Now we are due for a game where it goes the opposite!

Originally Posted by: RedSoxExcel 


I think the NFL does have an agenda, as far as what teams they want to win. A few years ago our team wasn't favored. Teams could (and did repeatedly) take shots to Arodge's head, and even (famously in that Phoenix game) facemasked him with impunity.
But our team is great for marketing. We're small town, locally owned and have an old school "team first" ethic among the guys in our locker room. So yeah, I don't think there's some "karma," but I do think there's an agenda there. But for now it plays into our hands.
Generally I think the refs make calls to keep games close, to maximize tv ratings. But I do think there is also an agenda for certain teams, even moreso in the playoffs.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
evad04
13 years ago
It's a conspiracy!
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."
packman82
13 years ago
Excuses are a reason for not facing the truth. We lived by our offense and died by our offense.
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