RedSoxExcel
13 years ago
I know there are a lot of pissed off people probably right now. But take a deep breath. It is so difficult to win back-to-back Super Bowls. I think the last time it happened was the Pats 2002-2003 and that was a team with Tom F'n Brady as the QB and Bill F'n Bellichek as the coach. Not to mention all the baggage with the off-field death to deal with.

Yeah, first team to win 15+ games and go 1 and out and the loss at home but honestly, its not like we're the Vikings or something that had a limited window. Who's old, Chuck and Driver? We're still a fairly young team with a QB in his prime. We'll be back. Obviously some things that need to get fixed but remember we were 15-1! 15-1! I think the fact that we did so well during the regular season actually screwed us because we basically didn't play a meaningful game for weeks.

Also, I am proud of this board, seems like everyone is pretty rational about all this.

The thing that is killing me right now is having to admit that Eli Manning is the real deal, I have been ragging on him for so many years, but he looked like a MVP out there.
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shield4life
13 years ago
Very well said, I agree with you! Will be back at it next year!
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nerdmann
13 years ago
It doesn't bother me that we lost. It's how we lost. This team consistently underperforms, year after year.
Yes I know, we won the Superbowl last year.
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go.pack.go.
13 years ago
We were jinxed because Aaron Rodgers said "123 FAMILY" instead of "123 DOMINATE".
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evad04
13 years ago

It doesn't bother me that we lost. It's how we lost. This team consistently underperforms, year after year.
Yes I know, we won the Superbowl last year.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I'm not sure you do know we won the Super Bowl last year, what with questioning the victory's value and validity. Let me help you out: we won the Super Bowl last year.

And yeah, how we lost is really all the difference. It's rough to end a season with a sloppy, underwhelming performance. But it's gotta be nice for you because you can continue with this mind-numbing narrative about underperforming and lulls. If what you want is a great team that is always consistent, then start a Madden franchise on rookie mode.

Today was about the agony of defeat; much of the rest of the season has been the thrill of victory. I know we want consistency. We want a tougher defense. We want a lull-less team that doesn't just score more points than the other team, but dominates them. But that's just not realistic, and I for one would like to break the habit of holding a football team that I have no influence over to such a ridiculously high standard. I don't need a cookie or a pat on the back or an apology or anything. I don't need to hump your leg, either. Sorry, you just happen to be the person I most consistently disagree with.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
I just think our defense had an enourmous case of tiny nut syndrome all year. I expect them to come back very hungry next year. On offense, I think we are good to go even if Driver and Clifton retire. But next year McCarthy has to get more inventive with Cobb, but that weapon was underutilized. We have all the pieces in place to be very good for the long haul, but we lost this game by a team that was more hungry than we were.
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dyeah_gb
13 years ago

I know there are a lot of pissed off people probably right now. But take a deep breath. It is so difficult to win back-to-back Super Bowls. I think the last time it happened was the Pats 2002-2003 and that was a team with Tom F'n Brady as the QB and Bill F'n Bellichek as the coach. Not to mention all the baggage with the off-field death to deal with.

Yeah, first team to win 15+ games and go 1 and out and the loss at home but honestly, its not like we're the Vikings or something that had a limited window. Who's old, Chuck and Driver? We're still a fairly young team with a QB in his prime. We'll be back. Obviously some things that need to get fixed but remember we were 15-1! 15-1! I think the fact that we did so well during the regular season actually screwed us because we basically didn't play a meaningful game for weeks.

Also, I am proud of this board, seems like everyone is pretty rational about all this.

The thing that is killing me right now is having to admit that Eli Manning is the real deal, I have been ragging on him for so many years, but he looked like a MVP out there.

Originally Posted by: RedSoxExcel 



I agree with most of your post but will not accept that Eli Manning is the real deal unless he somehow caused the two critical fumbles that we had on offense. He did not see much pressure and when he did he threw a pick.
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K_Buz
13 years ago
Being that it is hard to repeat as Super Bowl Champions is and should be no consolation. We were 15-1 during the regular season, a very successful regular season, but the season was a failure. Especially when you factor in that we were 15-1 in the regular season.

This team let themselves down, their coaches down, and us fans down with that uninspiring performance.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Losing doesn't bother me much, losing because the team beat themselves does. I'd rather the Packers have played their A game and just came up short than them having eight drops and three turnovers.

27th over all selection, either an OL or pass rush specialist.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Losing doesn't bother me much, losing because the team beat themselves does. I'd rather the Packers have played their A game and just came up short than them having eight drops and three turnovers.

27th over all selection, either an OL or pass rush specialist.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




The only thing on OL at 27 is usually a guard and there is nothing wrong with Lang or Sitton. Now if a blue chip center is sitting there, then I think we are in business. OLB has to be the pick, and if we have to trade up for the right guy, I'm all for it. I wonder what kind of comp pick we'll get for your boy Daryn Colledge?
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
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TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
Martha Careful (10-Feb) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs
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