azrunning
13 years ago
Not that you said it was but height isn't really a factor. Jordy is the tallest of the receivers and he has a good percentage.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
It was just an ironic comment on the cliché that Finley's height makes him a mismatch nightmare.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

It was just an ironic comment on the cliché that Finley's height makes him a mismatch nightmare.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


So, his height does not make him a mismatch nightmare? Tell that to a sub 6 foot DB when the ball is thrown 6 inches higher than Finley's head. I bet they disagree with you.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Interesting stuff, Z2C. Honestly, I'm surprised, that Cobb has the highest percentage on this team, as I remember a couple of drops.

There might be 2 reasons.
A: He's that explosive to get rid of the defender very quick
B: As the #5 WR on the team he's facing only the lower talented DBs

I guess it's a combination of both, it'll be interesting to see him now as he has to get more responsibilities with Greg out.

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert 



Cobb's route running isn't ready for prime time. But that's not a knock on him. I'm very prejudiced against rookie WRs (as are coaches because they generally can't run routes worth a damn). He's exactly where I thought he'd be at this stage of the game.

Of course, he'll get better. Driver didn't start off a great route runner but now he's the real deal. Gregorious picked up route running faster than just about anyone I've ever seen.

Back to Cobb, you are right about A & B. He's got an after burner where he gets a little bit of separation and if you're a DB, you're in trouble. Plus yes, #1 & #2 CBs are generally facing Gregorious, Driver, and Jordy but rarely Cobb.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

So, his height does not make him a mismatch nightmare?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


No, it does. That's why it's ironic that he has the lowest completion percentage of the Packers' receivers.
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13 years ago
Let's have a little common sense when dealing with rumors.

1) No team has seen Gurley practice.

2) There opinions would be based upon the preseason.

3) Gurley does not "know" the other team's offense. How much would he pick up in the last couple of weeks and help that team?

4) With 80% of the season complete there is plenty of film on the Packers so a team is unlikely to sign a player to get a playbook for the playoffs. Coaches have spent many hours studying every gesture of Rodgers for clues.

5) Is the source of the rumor Gurley's agent? Agents are salesmen. Many downplay the abilities of players signed with other agents and overstate their own client's status.

In this twitter bad rumor/gossip age, let's be careful before accepting everything you hear is true and from a reliable source. Especially in February and March when agents are trying to find their clients jobs.

Even in the 21st century bad rumors are bad journalism.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

Is the source of the rumor Gurley's agent?

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 


This is exactly what I assumed when I first read this rumor. Only Gurley's agent or the Packers' contract negotiator would know all the details of what he is currently making, what the other team offered, and what the Packers are (supposedly) counteroffering, and I can't see anyone on the Packers' staff revealing that kind of sensitive information to a 23-year-old aspiring sports journalist who hasn't even graduated college yet. The agent of a hungry practice-squat player hyped in the preseason might, though, especially when given access to a popular platform like that site.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I believe this was another rumor predicated on an educated guess. The author most likely guessed that Greg Jennings had an ACL and would be put on IR, thus Gurley would be the logical player to be activated. All in hopes of saying "Look I told you so, my sources are rock solid!"


There are a LOT of folks who do that, which is why I'm usually skeptical of any independent "source" rumor.
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13 years ago
I agree with you Cal Cheez. So much so I applaud you. I have been somewhat skeptical on the tweet this whole time. But keep this in mind, a team that would want to pick up Gurley this time of the year would not necessarily be looking for him to contribute this season. When you look at most other team's WR 1-5 group they are no where near as good as GB's quintet. And Gurley as #6 is better than many team's #4 and with a couple years of experience probably even a lot of #3s. It would not shock me to see someone make him an offer now and avoid the stampede after next summer's TC is over. Keep in mind that it is possible that Donald retires/is cut before the 2012 season. That will open a slot on the Packer team. It is better for other teams to make their move now while GB has no place to put him.
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gbguy20
13 years ago
I've read that Driver is likely to retire many times now on this forum, is there a reason for this? Has he mentioned it? Or is this all your own speculation?
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