rabidgopher04
13 years ago

What I'm most curious about, however, is how this injury effects McCarthy's planning. Does he seriously contemplate going for 16-0? We need 1 more win to secure the #1 seed in the conference... but beyond that I wonder if McCarthy goes the Dungy route and rests his players the final two games. Based on the fact that DS is playing poorly at RG... I would be pretty happy to have Aaron sit out meaningful games alongside Sitton, Bishop, and Jennings.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



This strategy has never worked! Why do people keep suggesting this as a good option? Yeah, let's just rest our key players, let them slack for a while and look totally out of it for the playoffs. [duh]

I want this team to stay on a roll and crush everyone in their path. Essentially the Packers get another bye week this year, a luxury they didn't have last year. Let's just keep kicking ass!



P.S. You want them to sit out meaningful or meaningless games? 👅
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Any time frame on how long a "tear" would take to recover from if it were not completely torn?

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 


2 to maybe 6 weeks. Depending upon the severity.
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Porforis
13 years ago
The good news is that we've got plenty of targets for Aaron to throw at still. Jordy, Driver, Finley, Jones, Cobb, Saine out of the backfield... Plus, Grant showed a spark I haven't seen since 2009 and if he can keep it going like he did today, that'll make things that much easier for Aaron and the WRs.
zombieslayer
13 years ago

The good news is that we've got plenty of targets for Aaron to throw at still. Jordy, Driver, Finley, Jones, Cobb, Saine out of the backfield... Plus, Grant showed a spark I haven't seen since 2009 and if he can keep it going like he did today, that'll make things that much easier for Aaron and the WRs.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Yes. Let's get Cobb more involved. I'm betting 🇲🇲 starts calling more screens as well.

I'm guessing JJ steps up big time.
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beast
13 years ago

Saine out of the backfield...

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



He had a head injury... also Pickett had a injury... any update on those? also what was Pickett's injury?

This strategy has never worked! Why do people keep suggesting this as a good option? Yeah, let's just rest our key players, let them slack for a while and look totally out of it for the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



Two years ago both the Colts and Saints took it easy the last two weeks and both made it to the Super Bowl... and one of them one it... so sounds like it worked at least once... (not saying i agree with trying it)...

But at the last time I don't want to leave Rodgers in for cheap shots against the Lions in the last week... they might look to take him out of the playoffs before the playoffs...
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Pickett had a head injury too, could be his second concussion this year.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

PFT  says a tear "is suspected." Tear could mean sprain. Keep that in mind.
Complete tear would require surgery.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


The way I understand it, It depends a whole lot on what is torn.

MCL or LCL can heal by themselves. I had a torn MCL, I didn't miss a day of work and was running in 3 weeks

ACL or PCL take surgery. My brother, sister in law, Mom and a couple guys I played football with all tore ACLs. They all had surgery and took a year plus to recover from.

If you lace your fingers together and pull your hands apart, that is kind of what a ligament does when it is sprained or torn. If you pull a little, they stay laced together, if you pull all the way, they lose contact with each other.

A sprain is the same as a tear only to a lesser degree. If you pull them all the way apart, it is worse than if you pull them a little and the fibers of the ligaments are still laced together.

Really, sprain and tear are interchangeable. Just when people say torn, they usually mean pulled all the way apart or detached from the anchor point.

That is the way I understood it from being the patient and knowing people who were.

I'm no doc so I could be misunderstanding what I was told.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

The way I understand it, It depends a whole lot on what is torn.

MCL or LCL can heal by themselves. I had a torn MCL, I didn't miss a day of work and was running in 3 weeks

ACL or PCL take surgery. My brother, sister in law, Mom and a couple guys I played football with all tore ACLs. They all had surgery and took a year plus to recover from.

If you lace your fingers together and pull your hands apart, that is kind of what a ligament does when it is sprained or torn. If you pull a little, they stay laced together, if you pull all the way, they lose contact with each other.

A sprain is the same as a tear only to a lesser degree. If you pull them all the way apart, it is worse than if you pull them a little and the fibers of the ligaments are still laced together.

Really, sprain and tear are interchangeable. Just when people say torn, they usually mean pulled all the way apart or detached from the anchor point.

That is the way I understood it from being the patient and knowing people who were.

I'm no doc so I could be misunderstanding what I was told.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 




Cool, because what I've heard is that it is an MCL.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I didn't like reading this comment from Tramon.

(injuries) are the danger you face pretty much every week. You just hope the worst doesn’t happen when you don’t want it to. Obviously Greg’s injury, from talking to people, is bad. But we don’t know anything yet at this point. Hopefully he’s OK. The next guy’s going to have to step up. We have the firepower for guys to step up. Hopefully Greg’s back but if not, we’ll be ready still.

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13 years ago
Good stuff, Dexter. Especially the "hands" illustration. Thanks.
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