[2011] Green Bay Packers vs St. Louis Rams

Greg C.
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I haven't heard anything. But geez, WHEN will these guys learn to LAY DOWN when you get an INT in the endzone???? It would be different if it was a close game and you needed a score. But up THREE TD's and you try to run it out? STU-PID!
Usually the guy gets out to the 3 yard line, then get's pounded. Shield's didn't even get that far.

Hope we don't lose him for any amount of time. REAL thin in that area.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

I was thinking the same thing. There was nowhere for Shields to go on that play. At first, I thought it was a safety because he clearly tried to run it out of the end zone. Apparently that's not the rule, though.

We saw what happened when Jarrett Bush replaced Shields--a long completion down the sidelines against Bush. There will be more of those if Shields can't play. Deep coverage is not really Woodson's thing anymore either.

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Greg C.
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#62

Here are my positives and negatives for this game:

Positives:

Another great game for Aaron Rodgers, especially the TD throw to Jones while rolling to his left. He makes it look so easy.

A nice game for A.J. Hawk, including a sack.

Clay Matthews finally came up with his second sack of the season. He deserved it. He's been working his tail off and making an impact in every game.

A 67-yard punt by Tim Masthay. Good to see him hit one of those in the regular season.

Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson toasted our old friend Al Harris for a 93-yard TD. Harris bit on Aaron's pump fake, and after catching the ball Jordy made a move that caused the safety to miss him and wipe out Harris, leading to an easy TD.

I like the way the Packers methodically destroy teams. I get the sense that they are still saving their best for when they need it.

Negatives:

Dropped passes by Driver, Nelson, and Jennings, the last one causing an interception. The receivers had been so good in that area up till this game.

The running game did very little in the second half, which had a lot to do with the offense's failure to score points.

Sam Shields turned a good play into a dumb play, trying to run an interception out of the end zone when he had no chance to get anywhere with it, and getting himself injured in the process.

Overall, it was a solid game. Next week they go to Minnesota!

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wpr
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13 years ago

#63

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

yep. I just couldn't believe it when he didn't take a knee immediately. Everyone wants to get the 100+ yard score. Int's/kickoff and punt returns.

TwinkieGorilla
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13 years ago

#64

I hear finger joke. Packers second quarter.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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hardrocker950
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13 years ago

#65

I am glad to see this game ended with a win. I am however concerned with the drops we have seen recently. I also was disappointed that the 2nd half seemed very conservative, almost as if they were overconfident in their lead. This did not look like the team that we have been watching. I worry that sometime this team will give up a big fat loss by playing a good first half then flush their lead by playing too conservatively. Recently I commented on the aggressive game plan and how I loved the commanding nature of the offense - seems they went back to the old ways for some reason (maybe to avoid injuries?)

I really hope to see a more aggressive game plan next week. Truth being the mistakes we have recently witnessed are more of a threat to this team than any of our opponents at this point. I want to see them keep the foot on the gas, and break some damn necks!

DakotaT
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13 years ago

#66

yep. I just couldn't believe it when he didn't take a knee immediately. Everyone wants to get the 100+ yard score. Int's/kickoff and punt returns.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I thought Darren Sharper was on the filed for a second. It was kind of hard because in and out of naptime that whole second half.

Yerko
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13 years ago

#67

It seemed like the Packers were content with the game in the 2nd half and were just trying to run clock. I thought maybe it was because they were just trying to prevent injuries and saving themselves for the Vikings (don't know why you'd have to do that).

The Rams (except a few times) hardly generated any type of pressure on Rodgers. He could have done anything. The Rams were running some very odd formations on offense also. They were splitting S. Jackson and the fullback out at wide receiver and it never really worked, yet they still ran it a handful of times.

I sat behind the daughter of the Rams defensive coordinator and she said the Rams will be content with the 24-3 loss. Guess her dad was expecting a lashing...haha.

Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#68

This victory tied the Packers record for most consecutive wins (12) set by the Lombari Packers of 1961-1962. Over that stretch, the Lombardi Packers outscored their opponents 370-91 with four shutouts, compared to 373-210 for McCarthy's Packers.

The most recent extended winning streak for the Packers (prior to the current streak) was in 1996-1997, when they won 9 games.

This squad will have a chance to break the record next week at Minnesota.

By the way, the Packers have started out 5-0 or better five times in team history. They have won a championship each time.

zombieslayer
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#69

In defense of Sam Shields, I'm under the impression Dom wants defensive players to do what he did.

Why? It's extra psychological incentive to get INTs. You get an INT, you get a chance to make something happen.

Plus, look at our guys. How many pick 6's have we had the past 3 or so years? We've had a lot. A lot of our guys are playmakers when they got the ball in their hands. Woodson, Collins, T Williams. Do you think Shields wants a piece of the fun too? I bet yes. And I'm all for it.

Now, the mistake he made is he thought he could get outside before anyone else. He misjudged and he was wrong. It happens. No, it wasn't a safety because he didn't step out of the end zone and come back in. The only bummer is he got shaken up in the tackle. That happens. It's the NFL, not soccer.

If anything, I'd rather see our defenders go for the big play than just fall down after INTs. Pick 6s have a way of demoralizing the other team and there's nothing more frustrating to an opposing QB than a pick 6. He didn't even have to make it all the way. Just get as many yards as you can. I want to see opposing Os get so frustrated they start losing their cool.

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Zero2Cool
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#70

He took an unnecessary hit. Packers were up by a lot. I'm all for the big play, when it's intelligently aimed for. He had no chance, he should have knelt down or slid. Packers already lost a key contributor to their secondary, can't be stupid and lose another.

Risk vs Reward.

wpr
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13 years ago

#71

Sorry Zombie I humbly disagree. It is one thing to get the pick out in the flat or even across the middle while you are moving forward. Up to half of the offense is going to be behind you or so far across the field they are out of the play.

Sam caught the ball 7-8 yards deep in the end zone, fell down and then got back up. EVERYONE except the receiver was between him and the other end zone 107 yards away. He is fast but no one is that fast. Even so you rarely see a receiver get very many yards when he is running east to west instead of north to south. The reason for Sam's lateral movement was that EVEN HE COULD SEE HE HAD NO WHERE TO GO. He was just running around hoping/waiting for the other Packers to suddenly become great these run blockers and knock the Rams to the ground. It didn't happen. He would have been better off taking a knew and letting the Aaron and the offense do what they get paid to do. He already did what he is paid to do.

Nonstopdrivel
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#72

I made this point in the chat room yesterday, but you probably made it better than I did.

It's one thing if the interception occurs on a deep bomb or something like that. The offense is spread out over the field, and the player who made the interception has a decent chance of getting at least past the 20, if not making solid field position. But in this case, the play started inside the 10, if I remember correctly, and Shields was deep in the end zone. He didn't have a chance of making it to the 20, so had he elected to take the ball out of the end zone, he would have put his offense in a bad position.

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#73

This defeat extended to 48 the Rams's streak of games without a 4th-quarter comeback win. Their record over that span: 9-39.

Wade
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13 years ago

#74

Speaking of Shields INT, I always thought that if the player was actively trying to get out of the end zone, it would be a safety, not a touchback.

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#75

Speaking of Shields INT, I always thought that if the player was actively trying to get out of the end zone, it would be a safety, not a touchback.

Originally Posted by: Wade

Give them more ideas for more judgement rules. Great idea, genius! 😉 😳

mi_keys
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13 years ago

#76

Speaking of Shields INT, I always thought that if the player was actively trying to get out of the end zone, it would be a safety, not a touchback.

Originally Posted by: Wade

I've seen a number of you guys say this. Where on earth did any of you get this idea? Have none of you ever seen someone try to return a ball out of the endzone following a turnover only to get tackled before they can make it out?

Born and bred a cheesehead

gbguy20
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#77

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

this guy's got it.

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Wade
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#78

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Actually, no.

I've seen people *start* to return a ball. But what I remember always happening is either (a) they make it out of the end zone or (b) they give up before they are touched. Once they "take a knee", then the touchback rule is obvious (even to me). I don't ever remember seeing a return start and end in a tackle when the interceptor was still trying to get out of the end zone.

And I've seen hundreds of interceptions in the end zone.

Of course my memory could be selective. I am a geezer after all. (shrug)

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Dexter_Sinister
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Originally Posted by: Wade

I can remember a few.

Not specifically, but I remember seeing it. Usually they take a knee before they take a hit even if they started running around looking for a lane. If they are smart.

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Greg C.
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Originally Posted by: Wade

Ditto. I don't recall ever seeing it either.

Possibly the rule is different on kick returns, although of course it would be rare for a player to get tackled in the end zone while trying to return a kick.

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