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Great win, as any win against Da Bearce is a great win. But what was with the holding call on that punt near the end? Did they miscall the number or just make that one up? 21 certainly wasn't holding anyone...

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13 years ago

I'm less bothered by Peprah's performance than I am with the defensive performance generally.

I wonder whether Aikman (of all people) was on to something when he pointed his finger at the linebackers. There were far too many *big* open areas in the middle range of 8-15 yards deep. I'm not sophisticated enough to know who has responsibility for what in an offense as complicated as the Packers, but when I see the mid-range middle as open as it was with some regularity today, I think it's more than Peprah in his first start at strong safety.

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Those holes may well arise from the zone coverages the Packers are running.

I'm really not sure what to think of this pass-defense. While the amount of yards we have given up should not be dismissed, I'm not sure it is anything to panic, or even excessively worry, about. There are not any glaring blown coverages, and more importantly the fact that teams are passing so much at the expense of the run is when Capers' scheme can be utilized to its full extent.

In other words, as long as our run D holds, I have to think the pass-D issues are nothing overly problematic. Hell, even J. Bush seemed to be in position to make plays on the ball. Outside of Peprah (on 3 pr 4 different occasions), I can't recall anyone giving up big yardage on their coverages.
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Outside of Peprah (on 3 pr 4 different occasions), I can't recall anyone giving up big yardage on their coverages.

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Nice post. I will add that Tramon let the TE get away from him on the touchdown. He was in man coverage (or so it seemed) but then he started watching Cutler and his man went wide open.
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Look who we've gone up against. Brees, Newton, Cutler. Cutler may suck, but Martz never runs the ball much. These are all mondo passing offenses.
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13 years ago

Nice post. I will add that Tramon let the TE get away from him on the touchdown. He was in man coverage (or so it seemed) but then he started watching Cutler and his man went wide open.

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Well that's what the announcer said anyways but I'm not confident he knew the Packers actual playcall.
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13 years ago
I can't wait for Zombo and So'oto to get healthy. Hopefully one of them can bring something at that ROLB spot. Walden is definitely the weak link on defense. He gets no pressure on most of his pass rushes unless someone leaves him unblocked. On top of that he makes that idiotic penalty and cancelled out Tramons INT.
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Well that's what the announcer said anyways but I'm not confident he knew the Packers actual playcall.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 


I was wondering the same thing. Maybe Peprah was responsible for that part of the field and he was playing too deep. At any rate, Peprah should've at least been able to make the tackle after the TE caught the ball.
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I can't wait for Zombo and So'oto to get healthy. Hopefully one of them can bring something at that ROLB spot. Walden is definitely the weak link on defense. He gets no pressure on most of his pass rushes unless someone leaves him unblocked. On top of that he makes that idiotic penalty and cancelled out Tramons INT.

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I agree that Walden is a liability. I don't think the roughing the QB penalty was really his fault, though. Matthews hit Cutler just before Walden arrived, knocking him down and forcing Walden's contact to be too high. It looked like Walden actually tried to hold up, but he couldn't help hitting Cutler's helmet. The officials are going to call that penalty every time.
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I was wondering the same thing. Maybe Peprah was responsible for that part of the field and he was playing too deep. At any rate, Peprah should've at least been able to make the tackle after the TE caught the ball.

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Shields whiffed as well. Back to Tramon's coverage -- yes, we can only speculate. But Tramon ran with him and suddenly backed off when another receiver was running a drag to his side. It looked as though he was trying to make a play, but let the TE run free. Wouldn't shock me if the breakdown was for another reason, though.
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With Collins out I was sure Chicago would try more passes to their TEs. GB seemed to struggle with that last year and I thought they would test the Packers a little more than they did.
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13 years ago
I think they listen to the fans too much over in Chicago. Lots of people were complaining about them not running enough in their last game. So they tried to run, even though it wasn't working at all. They stuck to it too long.
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13 years ago

Great win, as any win against Da Bearce is a great win. But what was with the holding call on that punt near the end? Did they miscall the number or just make that one up? 21 certainly wasn't holding anyone...

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Tell that to Jarrett Bush

http://imgur.com/a/MLKx2 
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Well that's what the announcer said anyways but I'm not confident he knew the Packers actual playcall.

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Having taken another look at the replay here, it is obvious that the defense was in man coverage. Tramon ended up trailing the TE and chasing him after the reception. He blew the coverage there. Everyone else except for Peprah was in man coverage. Tramon completely let him go.
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Is any one else a bit troubled by the play calling (running on first and second down) leading to redzone field goals (both last week and today)? why not give the most dangerous set of offensive weapons in the league a chance to make a play on 2nd and 3rd down?
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Is any one else a bit troubled by the play calling (running on first and second down) leading to redzone field goals (both last week and today)? why not give the most dangerous set of offensive weapons in the league a chance to make a play on 2nd and 3rd down?

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No matter how much us fans want to shove Chicago's face in the dirt; it's not a good idea to spank your division rivals. That game was well in hand at 27-10 and like usual, McCarthey didn't step on their neck. Really the only thing that bothered me was watching James Jones run out of bounds late in the fourth quarter. If he is too stupid not to know the game situation, they he should be traded to Tennessee today. He did the same thing in the Super Bowl.
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Tell that to Jarrett Bush

http://imgur.com/a/MLKx2 

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 

Thanks for the link with the pictures. It does look like it could be a hold. It also looks like Bush may have actually known where the ball was and therefore may have had a chance to make a play on the returner.

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Tell that to Jarrett Bush

http://imgur.com/a/MLKx2 

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Ahh. OK. Thanks!
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13 years ago

No matter how much us fans want to shove Chicago's face in the dirt; it's not a good idea to spank your division rivals. That game was well in hand at 27-10 and like usual, McCarthey didn't step on their neck. Really the only thing that bothered me was watching James Jones run out of bounds late in the fourth quarter. If he is too stupid not to know the game situation, they he should be traded to Tennessee today. He did the same thing in the Super Bowl.

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It looked like Jones was running out of bounds but the result was that he was tackled in bounds and the referee on the play signaled for the clock to keep running (spinning arm movement). That is why Chicago had to call a TO after that play.
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Is any one else a bit troubled by the play calling (running on first and second down) leading to redzone field goals (both last week and today)? why not give the most dangerous set of offensive weapons in the league a chance to make a play on 2nd and 3rd down?

Originally Posted by: wahmad 



nope. Dakota nailed. Not necessary to get a TD. By burning clock and getting the FG it keeps red zone plays off of game film that other teams would be able to review.
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Tell that to Jarrett Bush

http://imgur.com/a/MLKx2 

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I knew he had to be guilty. As he was coming off the field he was raising his hand telling the coaching staff that he was guilty.
Troy and Joe missed that. They were too busy telling everyone that in their expert opinion the refs had made a mistake.
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