Greg C.
13 years ago
Any mention of Brian Urlacher among Packer fans is bound to elicit claims that he is overrated, but the fact is that the guy has done nothing but make big plays against the Packers ever since coming into the league. I share Aaron's respect for him.
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polargrizz
13 years ago

I'm thinking Brian Urlacher is a better leader than player. I think he's a really good player, just not as "elite" as some want to haphazardly label him.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Urlacher is much like Clay Matthews in that he's a one trick pony. Urlacher is an above average pass defender who is easily taken out on run support much like Matthews is primarily a stand up lineman who is an excellent passrusher, and below average run stopper
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Urlacher is much like Clay Matthews in that he's a one trick pony. Urlacher is an above average pass defender who is easily taken out on run support much like Matthews is primarily a stand up lineman who is an excellent passrusher, and below average run stopper

Originally Posted by: polargrizz 



That's fair, but I'll always remember the run stuff Clay did have in the Super Bowl. Besides, I prefer Clay's luscious locks to Brians crew do any day. I may be forced to join Brian in the crew do look because God is unjust and it is quite obvious he put me on this earth to suffer; but that doesn't mean 80's hair metal hair should not be coveted.
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peteralan71
13 years ago
Briggs > Urlacher IMO
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
My analysis of Urlacher is he's a brain. He makes the other players play better around him. He reminds me of a lesser version of da Bears' LB from the 60s (my brain is shot, forgive me for forgetting his name).

Watch Urlacher play. He'll move to where the ball will go right after the ball is hiked. The man knows his film.

Also, Urlacher and Briggs have outstanding chemistry together. I really hate hearing when Briggs is unhappy and wants a trade. Hate hearing that. I've always said I want to see the NFC North as the toughest division because the NFC Central was always "the division where the team with the winning record wins the division." I still have football insecurities about that. We were the laughingstock of the NFL for two decades.

If you split the two of them up, you're gonna see a huge decline in da Bears' D.

The other thing is I want to earn division titles, not just get them because the other teams sucked. I'd much rather see us 13-3 and the next team at 12-4 than us at 13-3 and the next team at 7-9. The latter looks like you got the 13-3 because your division rivals were weak and you didn't really earn it.

OK, my brain returned. Dick Butkis. Geez. What the hell is wrong with my memory? I'm too young for Alzheimer's. Yes, Butkis knew where the ball would go immediately after the snap. Urlacher does too. He just doesn't have the dominating physical skill set Butkis had.
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13 years ago

Do you think Aaron really means it or is he "sweet talking the Bears?

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Ha! I was thinking the same thing. "Don't hurt me, I'm your friend!"

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


13 years ago

Any mention of Brian Urlacher among Packer fans is bound to elicit claims that he is overrated, but the fact is that the guy has done nothing but make big plays against the Packers ever since coming into the league. I share Aaron's respect for him.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



I'm with you. I think Urlacher is one of the better defensive players of his generation.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Any mention of Brian Urlacher among Packer fans is bound to elicit claims that he is overrated, but the fact is that the guy has done nothing but make big plays against the Packers ever since coming into the league. I share Aaron's respect for him.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 



Making big plays against the Green Bay Packers eliminates one from being overrated by certain people, regardless of how you perform against the other 30 teams in the NFL?? I'm not buying that.

I've seen him play and said it many times, he plays great against the Packers, but I don't see the same play maker against other teams. I'm not saying he's garbage, just saying he's not top 5 like I hear him proclaimed to be. Definitely a helluva talent, but I think his leadership is his biggest asset to a team and feel he's a great leader.
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Yerko
13 years ago
Rodgers is a class act and in my opinion has always put the rivalry on the back burner. He means everything he says about Urlacher and I think a lot of what he said here echos what he said about Urlacher last year. Rodgers giving Urlacher his best isn't going to make Urlacher pull up on a hit if he is granted that chance so sweet talking means nothing here.

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DakotaT
13 years ago

Making big plays against the Green Bay Packers eliminates one from being overrated by certain people, regardless of how you perform against the other 30 teams in the NFL?? I'm not buying that.

I've seen him play and said it many times, he plays great against the Packers, but I don't see the same play maker against other teams. I'm not saying he's garbage, just saying he's not top 5 like I hear him proclaimed to be. Definitely a helluva talent, but I think his leadership is his biggest asset to a team and feel he's a great leader.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Yeah that's a long, drawn out version of saying he's overrated.
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