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16 years ago
Here is hoping that his "gut feeling" is incorrect.. not many play the press coverage as well as Harris.. Williams can use another year of seasoning.. IMO.

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/316260 

Packers: Harris thankful for another chance
By JASON WILDE
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GREEN BAY Pulling back his long dreadlocks and pulling on his necklace Thursday afternoon, Al Harris headed for home, where Thanksgiving dinner with wife Shyla and sons Al Jr. and Gavin was waiting for him.

And while he doesn't know where he'll be next Thanksgiving the Green Bay Packers veteran cornerback was most certainly giving thanks after coming back from a potentially season-ending and career-threatening lacerated spleen suffered earlier this season.

"I am extremely thankful. Extremely thankful," Harris said as the Packers prepared for Sunday's game against the Carolina Panthers at Lambeau Field. "It was scary. It just made me put my life in perspective. This (football) is only a small piece, but an important piece. I appreciate it a little more.

"It was scary. I thought it was over for the year, and being that our team is going in a younger direction, that it could be it here."

Set to turn 34 for the Packers' Dec. 7 game against Houston and coming off his first Pro Bowl appearance, Harris admitted Thursday he thinks this is probably his final season in Green Bay, even though he's under contract through 2011.

Although he said he hasn't spoken to general manager Ted Thompson about it, he believes with the team's stable of young cornerbacks Tramon Williams, who played well as a starter in Harris' place, as well as Will Blackmon and Pat Lee behind him, the club will move him during the offseason for a draft pick.

"I think that's going to happen. And not from my performance or anything, but we're going young," Harris said. "I haven't talked to Ted about it. I've just got a gut feeling that that's the direction our team is headed. That's what happens in the league. I just have to make sure that I'm on top of my game.

"Every game I play is an audition. I have to make sure that I put good stuff on tape."

He's doing that. Harris, who suffered the injury Sept. 21 against Dallas in a collision with linebacker A.J. Hawk, and missed the team's next four games, has been nothing short of phenomenal since returning to action Nov. 2 against Tennessee.

In the four games he's played he has allowed only one completion, a 10-yarder to Bears tight end Greg Olsen.
In the Packers' otherwise embarrassing performance against the Saints Monday night, Harris pitched another shutout. Quarterback Drew Brees threw his direction only once, and the ball fell incomplete.

"He really played well. And that was the good news," defensive coordinator Bob Sanders said of Harris, who was matched up with Marques Colston and Devery Henderson in the game. "He's one of the hardest workers we've got in practice. And it's showing in the game."

Despite Harris' longtime reputation for having a good work ethic, cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington said he has seen a change in Harris since coming back from the injury.

"It seems like he's more focused. Even in practice, he's working his techniques his footwork, his hand placement better," Washington said. "Not that he wasn't focused before, but I think he's more focused on trying to go out there and play every snap as hard as you can play. He's doing the same thing in practice. He's so much more focused in practice and meeting rooms and asking questions, things like that. I think he's doing everything he needs to do.

"He's played pretty doggone good the last few weeks. He's getting back into his groove."

Harris needed to do that after the disappointment of last January's NFC Championship game, when Plaxico Burress caught most of his 11 passes for 151 yards against him in the New York Giants' victory at Lambeau Field en route to the Super Bowl XLII title.

"You get tired of people bringing up the Giants game, the Giants game, the Giants game," Harris said. "The guy caught some passes. He's a good receiver. I just got tired of people trying to define my career here or me as a player based on one game."

Instead, with the ambitious goal of playing 20 NFL seasons meaning he has eight to go, and he admits the last few will have to be as a nickel or dime back Harris needed to re-establish himself as a dominant cover man. And in the past four weeks, he's done that.

"You go from the Pro Bowl to people wondering if you're a starter, if you're over the hill," Harris said. "You always hear, 'Oh, he can't run,' this or that. You name the last time you saw somebody run past me. I've got things planned out. And I've got to finish strong. Always.

"Eight years from now when I'm calling you up, and I'm like, 'I'm about to shut it down, dawg,' I want you to remember this conversation we had. I'm going to get it in. I won't be a starter. Not playing my style of play. I won't be able to do that. But I love playing the game. So I'm going to get all I can get out of this thing."


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16 years ago
Thanks to Tramon, I don't have to freak out about the possibility that this might be it for Al with us. If it is, it is. But I love the man, and personally, he can play on my team as long as he is able.


"I don't need no stinkin' spleen, doc. Yank that bitch, I got a game to play."


...Or words to that effect.


If I was Ted Thompson, that episode right then and there warrants a friggin' contract extension w/raise...I don't give a damn if he can play or not...

...and right now, he damn sure can, imo.


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16 years ago
I'm tired of trading good players for draft picks.

Don't get me wrong now, I loved the approach the past few years because the team was bad and didn't have that good of youth, but that was then and this is now. We have too many draft picks on this team. The core of the team is young and talented. I don't see enough room to bring in another crew of 10 or 11 draft picks this year.

If we could move Al Harris for a DT, DE, or OL then I think it might be worth consideration. I'd even trade Al Harris straight up for Tony G if Kansas City thought it was worth it on their side.

However if it's Harris for a 2nd or 3rd, I'd prefer not to move him at all until Pat Lee shows he's read to step into the nickel role.
TengoJuego
16 years ago
Al better be back next year. Very few players would actually be an upgrade from him.
Blank402
16 years ago
I think Williams could do a good job replacing Harris, what worries me is Blackmon or Lee in the nickel long term. I'd rather have Harris, Woodson and Williams than Harris, Woodson and Lee/Blackmon.
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Rockmolder
16 years ago
I certainly don't hope this will happen. I can't imagine that Ted Thompson would want to trade him away. Like said before, our young CBs could use another year as back-ups, nickel- and dimecorners.

I know Ted Thompson wants to have a young team, and wants to build something himself from the ground up, but there's no reason to trade away players when you have one of the youngest rosters, you have a .500 team and have tons of potential. Draft picks aren't going to 'solve' the inconsistencies, a veteran player can.
Bigbyfan
16 years ago

"You get tired of people bringing up the Giants game, the Giants game, the Giants game," Harris said. "The guy caught some passes. He's a good receiver. I just got tired of people trying to define my career here or me as a player based on one game."



We certainly had some people on this forum doing this...

I think Ted Thompson won't trade Al Harris this offseason, if he does, Ted Thompson is at risk of losing the team. After the big ordeal with Favre, I don't think the vets on our team would appreciate it at all if Ted Thompson gets rid of one of the team's veteran leaders. Plus, one reception in four games is AWESOME, not worth trading for a draft pick.
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shield4life
16 years ago
I'm not concerned if harris leaves at his position but I'm concerned as hell at williams spot :S ... who's going to take over, I sure hope Lee is developped faster then he needs to.
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yooperfan
16 years ago
Thompson needs to plug some holes with players that are NFL ready.
There is no reason to get rid of Harris for a draft pick.
shield4life
16 years ago
He won't trade him ... so I'm not worried at all ... I'm happy tramon being there is pushing harris to his best ... Harris is here until his contracts up ... unless his injured / retired / doesn't play good ...

When does harris's contrakt finish?
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JNelson87
16 years ago


When does harris's contrakt finish?

"krazygangsta" wrote:



It's good through 2011.

I don't see us trading him either. As alot of you have said, our young corners need another year in the nickel. Even with Tramon replacing Harris our secondary would take a notch back without Harris' presence alone. He's one of our big energy guys on D, I wouldnt wanna see him go for a draft pick. We don't need more picks, we need a few vets.
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greenwhiteandnogold
16 years ago
My gut tells me that he (Al Harris) knows something that we don't, otherwise he wouldn't be talking about this being his last year, especially given he's still performing and is a vital piece of the defense.

I wouldn't put it past Ted Thompson to trade him away. He wasn't shy about Rivera, Wahle, Sharper, or Favre for that matter, why stop there.

Of interest, I googled Ted Thompson to see if there were any other key veterans that were traded that I forgot about; no big names, but I found this section kind of interesting:

WIKIPEDIA: Ted Thompson is held as one of the worst GM's in Packers history after trading away the team's, and arguably the league's, greatest player of all time. Thompson made the 2008 season even worse when he decided to sign inexperienced quarterback Aaron Rodgers to a long term deal after only few lack luster games. After what is turning out to be a disappointing season for the Green Bay Packers in 2008, and messing up what could have been a Super Bowl season, there is the beginnings of a growing dissatifaction with Ted Thompson among true Packer fans.
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shield4life
16 years ago

My gut tells me that he (Al Harris) knows something that we don't, otherwise he wouldn't be talking about this being his last year, especially given he's still performing and is a vital piece of the defense.

I wouldn't put it past Ted Thompson to trade him away. He wasn't shy about Rivera, Wahle, Sharper, or Favre for that matter, why stop there.

Of interest, I googled Ted Thompson to see if there were any other key veterans that were traded that I forgot about; no big names, but I found this section kind of interesting:

WIKIPEDIA: Ted Thompson is held as one of the worst GM's in Packers history after trading away the team's, and arguably the league's, greatest player of all time. Thompson made the 2008 season even worse when he decided to sign inexperienced quarterback Aaron Rodgers to a long term deal after only few lack luster games. After what is turning out to be a disappointing season for the Green Bay Packers in 2008, and messing up what could have been a Super Bowl season, there is the beginnings of a growing dissatifaction with Ted Thompson among true Packer fans.

"greenwhiteandnogold" wrote:



The only one he traded is Williams and Favre, Williams didn't want to be here, and Favre I'm not getting into it ...

Rest of em left all as FA's
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shield4life
16 years ago
He will play until 2011 then he will either re-sign for cheaper for like secondary duties or either retire or walk away from packers. Nothing more, nothing else.
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JNelson87
16 years ago
That Wikipedia entry pretty harsh.. true in obvious areas but i think the true packer fans were expecting a season like this, we're not bad, jus inconsistent.. i dont think any of us really expected us to go 13-3 again with a new qb. Ted Thompson did what he had to do, Arod would have most likely been a wasted pick if he was to be a FA if we brought back 4..and Rodgers is gonna be a beast so I'm embracing the future for the Packers. Ted Thompson isnt no Ron Wolf but he rebuilt this team and bult a hell of a team.. he has his flaws tho everyone knows that.

Sorry to go off-topic..
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longtimefan
16 years ago

My gut tells me that he (Al Harris) knows something that we don't, otherwise he wouldn't be talking about this being his last year, especially given he's still performing and is a vital piece of the defense.

I wouldn't put it past Ted Thompson to trade him away. He wasn't shy about Rivera, Wahle, Sharper, or Favre for that matter, why stop there.

Of interest, I googled Ted Thompson to see if there were any other key veterans that were traded that I forgot about; no big names, but I found this section kind of interesting:

WIKIPEDIA: Ted Thompson is held as one of the worst GM's in Packers history after trading away the team's, and arguably the league's, greatest player of all time. Thompson made the 2008 season even worse when he decided to sign inexperienced quarterback Aaron Rodgers to a long term deal after only few lack luster games. After what is turning out to be a disappointing season for the Green Bay Packers in 2008, and messing up what could have been a Super Bowl season, there is the beginnings of a growing dissatifaction with Ted Thompson among true Packer fans.

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LOL

I was able to go to that section and delete it...So yeah, let's use wikipedi for a fact???

Wikipedi is good for SOME stuff, things of this nature aren't really worth to much..
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
He did say he'd be okay with playing Nickel or Dime. If he's true to his word, I think trading him for any draft pick is a waste. He still has talent and behind Woodson is considered one of the veteran leaders on our team. With all of our youngers, we need that personality in our locker room and on the field.
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buckeyepackfan
16 years ago
I do believe The Packers will make a late run and make the play-offs, if they don't and finish at or below :500, look for the following players to be gone by next year.

Clifton
Tauscher
Harris
Woodson
Driver


I have no inside info:, this is just my opinion, after watching Ted Thompson operate the last 4 years.

The window is closing for these players to make another run at the superbowl, if it doesn't happen this year, Ted Thompson will go younger and start building for another run in a few years.

The biggest surprise of all next year.......Greg Jennings will not be with The Green Bay Packers, he will test Free agency and get an offer Ted Thompson will not match. I hope I am completely wrong on this one but don't think so.
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gotarace
16 years ago
The biggest surprise of all next year.......Greg Jennings will not be with The Green Bay Packers, he will test Free agency and get an offer Ted Thompson will not match. I hope I am completely wrong on this one but don't think so.


The Packers are trying to extend and redo a 4 year contract Greg signed in 2006. Greg is under contract for the packers through 2010.
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greenwhiteandnogold
16 years ago

I do believe The Packers will make a late run and make the play-offs, if they don't and finish at or below :500, look for the following players to be gone by next year.

Clifton
Tauscher
Harris
Woodson
Driver


I have no inside info:, this is just my opinion, after watching Ted Thompson operate the last 4 years.

The window is closing for these players to make another run at the superbowl, if it doesn't happen this year, Ted Thompson will go younger and start building for another run in a few years.

The biggest surprise of all next year.......Greg Jennings will not be with The Green Bay Packers, he will test Free agency and get an offer Ted Thompson will not match. I hope I am completely wrong on this one but don't think so.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



As much as I dislike TT, I can't imagine him trading away all of those players. That would be football suicide. But then again, who would have thought in Jan 2008 that Favre would be wearing a Jets uniform this year. If he did that, this team would be done for and he'd have to put his GB house up for sale.

I don't like this "let's make get the team younger approach". I think it's foolish to trade away proven, high quality veterans and continue to bring in drafts. I don't think it necessarily allows you to make a run at it in 3-4 years. If you're lucky and were right about all of those drafts, then maybe. But history shows us that a it's a gamble - some drafts work out, some don't. And by the time you get every position filled with a young talented draft, you're earlier drafts are now high paid veterans that want millions a year to play.
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