Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Since when can you demonstrate willingness in a press interview?

I could write a whole article on your greed in place of a winning attitude and your fragile confidence. Nothing more than a receiving Albert Haynesworth.. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



I'd love to see it. We need more homegrown articles/content here. I'm struggling to find time to do so myself. And when I do, someone copies the main quote into another damn thread!! :shakeFist:
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Since when can you demonstrate willingness in a press interview?

I could write a whole article on your greed in place of a winning attitude and your fragile confidence. Nothing more than a receiving Albert Haynesworth.. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




So you're alleging that the reporter tricked him or took his words out of context?
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evad04
13 years ago

So you're alleging that the reporter tricked him or took his words out of context?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


You said if you were JJ, you'd show willingness to go over the middle regularly. This implies JJ is unwilling to do this. Pack asks how you're able to know this information from an interview.

So... to paraphrase the above, what the hell are you talking about?
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go.pack.go.
13 years ago

I think you're quoting someone else. I've noted in the past that JJ seems to run a lot of sideline routes in the past, but I don't think I've mentioned it in this thread.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah I'm on my iPod and I was deleting part of the post and accidentally deleted the name of the person I was quoting...I re-typed your name because I thought it was you. My bad, I apologize.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Jones should have responded something along the lines of "one week this year, I will have 10 catches, 150 yards, and 2 TDs. The very next week, I may not have a single ball thrown towards me. We like to spread the ball around here in Green Bay."

The reporters set him up with a trap. It's not easy to think on your feet when you are asked a "so, when was the last time you beat your wife?" question. If you ever studied journalism or debate, you'll know what I'm referring to. It's a question that there is no right answer and any way you answer it, you're going to look bad.

Good journalists don't do that crap. But then again, good journalists nowadays is almost an oxymoron.
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13 years ago
Oh, man. I totally agree and feel for Jones.

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Oh wait. No. I don't. Fuck off and die you whiny little pass-dropping bitch.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Greg C.
13 years ago

You said if you were JJ, you'd show willingness to go over the middle regularly. This implies JJ is unwilling to do this. Pack asks how you're able to know this information from an interview.

So... to paraphrase the above, what the hell are you talking about?

Originally Posted by: evad04 



He just made it up out of thin air, like when he said that Ryan Grant doesn't work on pass blocking. Jones went over the middle a lot in his first couple years, until the coaches realized that he was even more effective running sideline routes. I guess some fans just can't handle having four or five really good wide receivers on their team.

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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Alrighty Nerd.. stick yourself in his shoes and answer the question posed...

What is reaction to only getting one ball thrown your way and a handful of meaningful snaps?

Just be careful.. because I will browbeat your ass with the answer.. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


I don't know (or care) what Nerd would do in this situation, But I saw what Jones did do.

He pledged to donate $500 to the House of Hope for every TD Jennings gets this year. Jennings pledged $1000 for each one. They both pledged $3000 if they get a TD in the Super Bowl.

They did a lot more talking to fans than they did the media.

I didn't hear Jones say he wouldn't go over the middle once the whole night.

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nerdmann
13 years ago

You said if you were JJ, you'd show willingness to go over the middle regularly. This implies JJ is unwilling to do this. Pack asks how you're able to know this information from an interview.

So... to paraphrase the above, what the hell are you talking about?

Originally Posted by: evad04 




Not factually the case.
1: Somebody asked me what I would do if I was JJ. I told them what I would do. One of those things is to show more willingness to go over the middle. Then pack93z insinuated that I was suggesting that JJ show this willingness in a press interview. This is a good example of the common non-sequiturs which are used by many pissy little shebitches on this forum when they cannot successfully win an argument on it's merits. In fact I was ripping JJ for taking his shitstained laundry to the press. Why would I suggest he do that even more?
2: Here you are suggesting that Pack93z is suggesting that I cannot know that JJ is unwilling to go over the middle from an interview. He is suggesting no such thing, as I demonstrated in the above paragraph.
3: What I am talking about is what, iirc, you asked me to state. If I was JJ, what would I do? I told you what I would do. I would cash my paychecks. By which I also mean, stfu and be thankful for the new contract I just chose freely to sign a few weeks ago. In addition to this, I would work on my over the shoulder catches. I suggested this, because it seems to have been a problem with JJ last season. Being that he had a problem dropping these types of catches, many of which would have been game clinching TDs, this might be one reason that he would see decreased playing time.
Finally, I also suggested that JJ show more willingness to go over the middle. Do I know for a fact that he is a chickenshit to go over the middle? I have no idea. But it does seem that he gets sent on a disproportionate number of sideline routes. Maybe he's just a specialist at that, although he doesn't seem to have the same knack at getting his feet in bounds than say a James Lofton or a Jerry Rice. But then, who does? The MAIN reason I suggested that he demonstrate willingness to go over the middle, is because it's something he could do to get reps. What I would do is make smack talk to the inside LBs. And I would maybe talk a little smack to DD. I would make suggestive banter during practice, not to the extent of TO or to the extent that I would ruin team chemistry, but to the extent that the coaches would deliberately send me over the middle to get hammered by Dez Bishop. Then I would pop right up smiling like a jackass and challenge them some more. This is just something I would do to demonstrate that I am eager for some action, and perhaps am willing to go out there and do shit work even if I have to, just to get it.
4: Is that clear enough for you? I tried to type slowly so you could follow along. Now, wtf are YOU talking about? If I may be so bold as to inquire.

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nerdmann
13 years ago

Jones should have responded something along the lines of "one week this year, I will have 10 catches, 150 yards, and 2 TDs. The very next week, I may not have a single ball thrown towards me. We like to spread the ball around here in Green Bay."

The reporters set him up with a trap. It's not easy to think on your feet when you are asked a "so, when was the last time you beat your wife?" question. If you ever studied journalism or debate, you'll know what I'm referring to. It's a question that there is no right answer and any way you answer it, you're going to look bad.

Good journalists don't do that crap. But then again, good journalists nowadays is almost an oxymoron.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




These guys, on THIS team especially, are trained in dealing with the press. JJ is a veteran and he's not gonna get fooled by some dumbass reporter. I don't buy that. Dude is ONE game into a contract he signed of his own free will. Did he not know what depth this team has at his position?
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