Divisions / Wildcard / Super Bowl winners· Page 3

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

Well I made predictions for this in the record predictions thread but I'm going have to change one of my teams with the Manning situation deteriorating and expand on who I think will win in the playoffs.

NFC

1. Philadelphia 13-3
2. Green Bay 12-4
3. Atlanta 11-5
4. St. Louis 8-8
5. New Orleans 10-6
6. Detroit 10-6

AFC

1. Pittsburgh 13-3
2. New England 12-4
3. San Diego 10-6
4. Houston 9-7
5. Baltimore 11-5
6. New York 9-7

Wild card games:
Atlanta over Detroit
New Orleans over St. Louis
San Diego over New York
Baltimore over Houston

Division games:
Green Bay over Atlanta
New Orleans over Philadelphia
Baltimore over Pittsburgh
New England over San Diego

Conference championships
Green Bay over New Orleans
New England over Baltimore

Super Bowl XVI:
Green Bay over New England

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macbob
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#22

AFC
[list]

East: New York Jets

North: Pittsburgh Steelers
South: Houston Texans
West: San Diego Chargers

Wild Card: New England Patriots
Wild Card: Baltimore Ravens[/list]

AFC Championship: Steelers over Ravens (unless they meet before the Championship game)

NFC
[list]

East: Philadelphia Eagles

North: Green Bay Packers
South: Atlanta Falcons
West: St. Louis Rams

Wild Card: New Orleans Saints
Wild Card: Detroit Lions[/list]

NFC Championship: Packers over Eagles (unless they meet before the Championship game)

Super Bowl XLVI
Green Bay Packers over Pittsburgh Steelers

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

13 years ago

#23

The Texans picked up FA starters CB Johnathan Joseph and FS Danieal Manning in FA... as well as drafting CB Brandon Harris (2nd) and Roc Carmichael (4th) that should help their pass D.

Also they switched to the 3-4 and their starting LBers look great, though I'm surprised Mario Williams is at OLB and not DE... but I haven't watched him enough to say where I think he should be.

Originally Posted by: beast

They were dead last. I doubt they can go from dead last to first by adding 2 mediocre vets and 2 rookies to a horrible secondary and porous front 7.

They would have to go from dead last to near the top of the league. A 3-4 is just a scheme without a DC that understands it enough to implement it as well as Capers and LaBeau. Phillips may be able to improve them, but with a lock out and his own record, I would doubt it is much. Nobody has seen one thing about them to be making predictions of a massive turn around like that.

Capers first year in Green Bay was not as big of a turn around as it would take for the Texans. Capers took us from an opponents passer rating of 72 in '08 to a 69 in '09. The Texans are starting over 100. They made the opponents QBs average look better than Rodgers career rating.

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Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#24

Dex, the Texans have done enough to improve themselves to win in a crappy division without Manning and Garrard. I don't see anyone really saying they'll be going to the super bowl, but their great offense and improving defense will be enough to win a crappy division. I'm glad to see most people here agree with that. Joseph is better than average. He's pretty good. I can't believe the Bengals let him get away, in what was a confusing situation.

The only team I could see giving them trouble would be the Titans lead by Hasselbeck and Johnson. Still not talented enough to take the division from Houston, however. Not gonna happen. I'm not sure why you are saying their defense needs to go from dead last to the top of the league. An average defense will be good enough for them, and that's with or without Foster running the ball.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#25

Also, I'm expecting JJ Watt to have a solid year for them as well. Should help their front 7 for sure. Watt, Reed, Harris, and Carmichael, mixed in with some help from Joseph, Manning, Vickers, etc., should be more than enough to provide them at average defense. I think Phillips will do a good job.

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

They don't need to go to first or near the top of the league. Plenty of teams have made the playoffs with less than steller defenses. Just look at the Chiefs of about 7 or 8 years ago. Their defenses were amongst the worst in the league but their offense was so damn good they were a lock for the playoffs. With the Texans having one of the better quarterbacks, the best receiver, one of the elite running backs (if he plays), a very good tight end, and a great offensive line they have the potential to make the playoffs even if their defense is terrible.

As for Phillips, he has a great track record as a defensive coordinator and his head coaching record isn't too bad either (82-59). If I recall correctly, NFL Network stated that every team he had been a defensive coordinator of made the playoffs in his first year. He is one of the better defensive coaches in the league and that defense will very likely be better than they were last year. They don't have to be the best or even near the best to make the playoffs in the division they are in.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#27

Agreed Keys. The 24-0 lead over the colts in the 2nd quarter looks pretty encouraging as well. Although, as I've mentioned, it is a Manning-less Colts. Once can't expect much. Even the Titans aren't looking sharp.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#28

Zero, do you happen to know why there is so much space after all of my posts? There doesn't appear to be any spacing tags in my signature. Have any suggestions? It's pretty annoying for sure!

mi_keys
Senior Member

13 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Yeah, it doesn't appear to be a deep division in the least. I wouldn't be all that surprised if they challenge the NFC West for the worst division in football.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#30

Yeah, it doesn't appear to be a deep division in the least. I wouldn't be all that surprised if they challenge the NFC West for the worst division in football.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I say the NFC West will be significantly better, as a whole. I expect the Rams and Cardinals to have decent to good seasons.

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