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13 years ago

Suspending him a full game would be moronic and inconsistent.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Probably isn't the first time the NFL has done something moronic and inconsistent. But I hope your right that they don't do it.

Not really worried about the Bears offense, so losing Tramon isn't that big of a deal for that game either. Bush can cover Cutler and any of the Bears WRs easily.

Now their D and Special Teams... that's what I'm afraid of.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 



I think you're underrating their potential to do damage with no Williams in there. The 4th CB isn't as good as Williams and might be able to attack and pick on that CB.

At least if their OL is half decent...
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13 years ago

I think you're underrating their potential to do damage with no Williams in there. The 4th CB isn't as good as Williams and might be able to attack and pick on that CB.

At least if their OL is half decent...

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I think maybe the question of is the Packers 4th CB better or worse than the Panthers 2nd WR? (assuming Sam Shields takes 1st WR)
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13 years ago

We weren't that good in 2008. The Panthers are that bad. Steve Smith was the best WR in the NFL something like 8 years ago. He's old now. He's their entire O.

Their D isn't that good. We'll light them up.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Don't sleep on the Panthers running game on offense. Their OL fell apart last year with injuries... after doing very well in run blocking and being a run first team.

Their D was good until Packers stole their DC away and they replaced him with a hyped DC who used a college system which didn't work (the college system was get a small DL and scheme and quickness will get them to beat the OL... doesn't work in the NFL...IMO) but I think they're also lost not as good in the DB area.
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13 years ago

I think maybe the question of is the Packers 4th CB better or worse than the Panthers 2nd WR? (assuming Sam Shields takes 1st WR)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Brandon LaFell is their 2nd WR.
TE Greg Olsen maybe the Panthers 2nd target guy.
Also I don't see TE Jeremy Shockey listed on their depth chart but he is listed on their roster.

They might be able to go 4 wide with the TEs out or in ... then a RB and Camnewton to stop in the backfield. I don't think they can beat us but if they choose to pull out a ton of tricks they could make it interesting.

Though I think it'd be smarter to save the tricks for teams you have a better chance of beating and ones you won't have to use so many tricks on. Then again... if Woodson and Williams are out they might not have to use as many tricks.

But I don't think their defense is going to be able to keep up as long as the Packers OL keeps up the great work.
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13 years ago
Panthers are set to be more of a rushing team aren't they? After reading the above post, I'm thinking Packers will see a lot of 2 TE formations.
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13 years ago

Panthers are set to be more of a rushing team aren't they? After reading the above post, I'm thinking Packers will see a lot of 2 TE formations.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yes and Yes.

Panthers have DeAngelo Williams (speed) and Jonathan Stewart (power) at RB and what I think to be a run first OL (meaning I think they're better at run blocking than pass blocking), and they had John Fox (who likes to run the ball) as head coach for a while but no longer.

Also I found Shockey listed on their depth chart. Their depth chart is set up to have zero FB and two TE positions (which I'm not used to... I was only looking for the one TE slot)... so yeah they probably got a lot of 2 TE formations planed.

And with one one FB and five TEs maybe they should put Kuhn at RB and get two TE slots on their depth chart? Though I'm not sure who would be the 2nd one listed as #1 with Finley... Quarless or Crabtree?
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13 years ago
I never underestimate the Packers' ability to fall flat on their faces when confronted with teams they should destroy. Hell, they lost to a 21-year-old quarterback making his first NFL start for a winless Buccaneers team back in 2009. I remember it being Thanksgiving (I was eating a turkey dinner with my family), but it was too early in the month for that.
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13 years ago

I never underestimate the Packers' ability to fall flat on their faces when confronted with teams they should destroy. Hell, they lost to a 21-year-old quarterback making his first NFL start for a winless Buccaneers team back in 2009. I remember it being Thanksgiving (I was eating a turkey dinner with my family), but it was too early in the month for that.

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NSD - I totally see where you're coming from and that loss really bothered me. I'm usually a guy who believes in never looking past an opponent.

I just think that if there's one opponent this year we can look past, it's the Panthers.

I'm more concerned about da Bears game because they can overachieve again this year. You just never know with da Bears.

I want to see Woodson and everyone else back for the game against them.
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13 years ago
I'm not worried about any games. I thought we were unstoppable last year, and we've improved. I do get pissed at the playing down to your opponent thing, but smoking everybody's ass would be fascism.
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13 years ago

I'm not worried about any games. I thought we were unstoppable last year, and we've improved. I do get pissed at the playing down to your opponent thing, but smoking everybody's ass would be fascism.

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Fascism? [duh]

I believe in smoking your opponents. I want our opponents to give up all hope before we even start playing. I want to see us win one game this season by 50+ points. Hopefully October 2nd. I'm still pissed off about 1997.
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TengoJuego
13 years ago
Tramon Williams reacted in a similar way(in the Super Bowl) as Woodson did this past Thursday. Basically, our corners aren't going to let anyone shove them around. Begging for a fine and/or suspension is laughable. He really put another player at risk by hitting a metal facemask. He was penalized, and rightfully so. The team suffered the consequences of his lack of self control. Carry on.

I fully expect a fine from Goodell. But you can pretty much expect anything to be fined, these days, under his control and power.
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It's the freaking Panthers, people. They have the most limp noodle O in probably the past several years. I'm more worried about misplacing my car keys than the Panthers scoring points on us.

We'll beat them with 3rd stringers as DBs. Seriously. That team is LIMP.

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lol ... Dont be so worried about the bears ... we going to crush them. Remember they are the bears and they suck.

cutler will throw 3 ints
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13 years ago

lol ... Dont be so worried about the bears ... we going to crush them. Remember they are the bears and they suck.

cutler will throw 3 ints

Originally Posted by: Dulak 



another 2 in the 2nd game. Wait, change that. Only 1 int in the 2nd game. He will have a strained hooha and take himself out at half time.

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13 years ago
Do we know the fine or anything yet?


Edit, CB Charles Woodson fined $10K for throwing punch in season opener, source told @AdamSchefter
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13 years ago

Do we know the fine or anything yet?


Edit, CB Charles Woodson fined $10K for throwing punch in season opener, source told @AdamSchefter

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Justice served. Maybe, he'll just cash in one of his ear-rings.

Can we please go back in time and have someone punch Randy Moss?

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13 years ago
Personally.. I think 10k may appear light.. but really it is reflective of his rather quiet career in terms of causing the NFL headaches.


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13 years ago
I really believed the fine would be more than $25,000. Then again, it was a first time offense.
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Personally.. I think 10k may appear light.. but really it is reflective of his rather quiet career in terms of causing the NFL headaches.


Personally upon hearing that NFL films has done a special on Billy the Cheat.. can we punch the thinker of such an asinine concept. The last freaking guy I would want to have to endure in a positive spin... well maybe ahead of Jerry.

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Until those pussies win another playoff game, I don't even consider them a contender. Dynasty my ass. Dynasties role people in Super Bowls, not squeeze them out by the width of a pubic hair.
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13 years ago

20 or 25K. Maybe because he was not ejected 30K.

In his favor are his reputation and he was being held on the play.

I think 20k but as a Packers fan I may be low. 20K or 25K.

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez 



Well I guess if you are a star, a punch doesn't cost so much. He confessed right away and didn't squawk. The NFL likes that too.
He has been around for years and never gotten in trouble with the league.
He got off light but that is okay to a Packers fan.




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13 years ago
Clearly it's a conspiracy.
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