Silentio
13 years ago

MM's big on matchups. If JJ's skill set matches up with a defense better than Jordy's, he'll probably get more shots than Jordy that week. Didn't seem like it this week, but that's just one team.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This. Good point nerdmann.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

MM's big on matchups. If JJ's skill set matches up with a defense better than Jordy's, he'll probably get more shots than Jordy that week. Didn't seem like it this week, but that's just one team.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That is a great point, but let me ask for the sake of discussion (particularly since I don't want to go to sleep just yet): what exactly is Jones' skill set?

Put differently, what exactly does James Jones give us that no other receiver does? Size? Finley gives us size. Ability to make tough catches? Again, Finley. Maybe behind the shoulder catches? Jennings has shown he can do that, too.

I like Jones. A lot. But does he bring a particular skill that is not matched by another receiver? Not to say this means we should trade him or anything, but I do wonder what particular favorable match-up Jones would provide that another one of our receivers also could not capitalize on.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
This is going to happen to most of the weapons at one point or another during the season.. limited attempts or balls thrown in your direction. Or even limited snaps due to match ups or game plan.

Just think about the weapons on this team and an average of 20 to 25 catches per game... in an offensive game maybe more.

You have 5 legit receivers, 5 TE's that can play and the backs to include.. Jennings and Finley are going to get their 5 to 10 catches between them.. the leaves 10 to 15 catches to be dived up between the remainder..

Now look at this game plan.. not many stretch plays overall during the game.. and a ton of TE's split out wide to force the defense to adjust with either coverage (doubles) or pulling the safety over to open the under and mid routes... IMO, Jordy and Driver will get the nod in precision routes.. IMO they are better than Jones at them.
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13 years ago
Dude. Jordy caught the bomb. Nuff said.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

This is going to happen to most of the weapons at one point or another during the season.. limited attempts or balls thrown in your direction. Or even limited snaps due to match ups or game plan.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Completely agree. Packers just have too many offensive weapons for them all to get 4+ catches every game. There's going to be games where Jennings gets one catch and James Jones will get 7. You just continue to bust your ass and you'll get yours.

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azrunning
13 years ago
One thing is sure, if Cobb keeps playing like that he'll get more opportunities. I think those will come at the expense of Jones more than anybody.
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Yerko
13 years ago
Its all about the match ups and with the short routes Rodgers was throwing last night, I assume the Saints were playing to stop the deep routes...what Jones excels at.

Also, this.

via Jason Wilde

James Jones is playing in the Packers' personnel grouping with one RB, one WR and three TEs.



Don't know how many times they lined up in this formation but my guess is if there are 3 tight ends in, it is most likely a run or short play action.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

IMO, Jordy and Driver will get the nod in precision routes.. IMO they are better than Jones at them.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



No denying that, which leads me to wonder what exactly is it that Jones gives us that none of the other WRs do?

I understand McCarthy emphasizes match-ups within his scheme. But what exactly can Jones provide in match-up advantages that some other receiver cannot also?
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DakotaT
13 years ago
I'd hate to be a multitalented receiver in GB's current offense. You just aren't going to get the action your talent deserves. Man they are deep. Pick your poison D-coordinators.

How does a team not get arrogant?
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Jones' stat line for last night: 1 catch for 1 yard. Count me as taking a sadistic sort of pleasure in this. The perfunctory dump-off pass with which Rodgers favored Jones filled me with dark delight. I didn't want Jones back this year and it wouldn't bother me in the least if he is relegated to virtual irrelevance this season.

As for Randall Cobb . . . how many rookie wide receivers have caught a touchdown and returned a kickoff for a touchdown in their first game? He was incredible last night.
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