wpr's final 53· Page 2

wpr
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13 years ago

I don't want to argue specifics. The final 4 or 5 are tough.

But like every year there will be 2 guys I didn't think should be cut that are cut and there will be 2 guys I'm really supprised that make the roster.

Originally Posted by: CaliforniaCheez

Agree very much. If it is tough for Ted and Mike who have all the data and input of the rest of the staff it is impossible of us to be accurate.

I tried to get a couple of surprises in there.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#12

Didn't Ted Thompson trade Tony Moll at the last minute last year? And that one year he picked up Grant. There could still be something coming out of left field too.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I contemplated posting a trade or two. It was just too hard to factor in so I didn't.

wpr
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13 years ago

#13

Sounds like a very reasonable list, wpr. Of course, it gets easier to predict as the final cut date approaches, and we're close now. The decision on whether to IR Zombo will be interesting and will be based on medical information that we do not have access to. Like you, I am thinking that Brad Jones will be gone, though.

You're the second person to mention Dietrich-Smith as a possible long snapper. You guys must know something I don't, because I haven't heard anything about this.

Originally Posted by: Greg C.

I read something somewhere that he has been working on it. He did so last year too. I also read that Mathsay loves Goode's snaps so I doubt they will switch.

But then I have wished for them to use a regular player as the LS for 10 years. It is kind of like having a 3rd QB. A waste of a roster spot but necessary. I would love to have to more spots open. They could have a 6th WR or 5th TE or 9th LB.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#14

I didn't see the game and didn't see how Harrell performed. Is he really good enough to make us have 3 QBs?

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

I like Graham Harrell, I just don't see how he's more valuable than say an extra LB or RB or TE, or WR. Like I said in my 53, I believe the Packers can draft someone between rounds 3-5 next season and he'll be as good as Graham Harrell is now.

I think the only way Harrell makes the team is if Matt Flynn is traded, or they know they are going to be able to trade Flynn. And Matt Flynn did not do good this preseason so I think that's unlikely. Especially with Carson Palmer coming back, the Bengals are gonna look to trade him so that's one less Matt Flynn team to trade with.

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#15

I didn't see the game and didn't see how Harrell performed. Is he really good enough to make us have 3 QBs?

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Personally I would keep Harrell over Flynn if your going to keep just two.

IMO, Harrell closed the gap between the two and Flynn will command too much money next season (IMO) to be a backup here. Unless he is content with being a backup and accepts less.

Harrell and Flynn both played behind a line that was being rotated constantly last night to get film against starters for individual evals.. both struggled but Harrell seemed much more poised than Flynn last night.

Flynn still has value around the league for his performance last season vs New England.. 1st start did well enough.

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zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#16

Yes, I see us having 2 QBs on the 53. Interesting what Pack said about that in his 53 thread.

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Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#17

But Flynn finished 2 for 10 for 12 yards and Harrell 3 for 5 for 21 yards.

Originally Posted by: beast

Wow. If the Packers only attempted 25 passes, how many times did they run? Based on what I saw last week, I would have to imagine the total offensive output was anemic, if not downright pathetic. With only 5 total completions, none of the WRs got to show off their talents yesterday.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Passes 19
Completions 8
Rushes 21 (3 were by QB's)

Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#19

Oops @ my math. I meant 15 passes, but I forgot to factor in the starters. 19 is even lower than I would have expected. I hope we got a good look at the backs.

beast
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13 years ago

#20

none of the WRs got to show off their talents yesterday.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

I thought Gurly stood out a bit. I think he made one good play and made a great catch after battling past one of the Chiefs starter CBs but he couldn't get the 2nd foot in but it was close enough the Ref ruled it a catch until the review. Needs to work on getting that 2nd foot in but still a very good beating the CB and great catch away from his body with his long arms.

But yeah didn't notice many WR with the back-ups in. Crabtree showed up with Rodgers and I think once with the back-up guys.

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