Pack93z
13 years ago
Copy paste... saves time.. what I left there.



pack93z says: Aug 15, 2011 4:45 PM

As a Packer fan, I do think it is disappointing to hear this. While I am not the biggest Colledge fan, I think he should have been offered a chance to be there.

The only thing I will say, part of the reason may have been timing due to the lockout pushing the trip into the preseason and then trying to deal with other camps scheduling and so forth.

That said.. an effort could have been made to at least invite the starters for them last season.



pack93z says: Aug 15, 2011 4:48 PM

One additional note.. maybe the Packers did try and there is more to it than what Colledge knows at the moment..

Not excusing it.. but sometimes there is more to the story.. IE Rodgers airport deal.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
porky88
13 years ago

What if that happened? The Packers would've come off looking good, wouldn't they? It would've been a PR win, regardless.

I mean, the least they could've done was extend an invite to those former players, stating the time and place, leaving the logistics to the players themselves.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 


Don't get me wrong, as I believe you have a fair point. However, playing the victim card is somewhat weak, which he's kinda doing. Realistically, there is no way Arizona lets him make that trip. Never mind the fact that he would be re-joining a different roster after already signing a contract with an entirely different team. Am I the only one that sees the problem there?


Pack93z
13 years ago

Never mind the fact that he would be re-joining a different roster after already signing a contract with an entirely different team. Am I the only one that sees the problem there?

Originally Posted by: porky88 



No that is another aspect.. I think this is all a timely deal with regards to the lockout pushing everything back.

If the trip takes place in March, like normally, this is less of an issue and Colledge is there. Some of the blame has to be shared by the NFLPA in this gripe that Colledge has.

Doesn't change the fact that the Packers should have offered and then let it become a product outside their direct control... albeit it would have placed undue blame on the Cardinal organization whom only part in it is they signed a free agent.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
You know this country is starting to get filled with more and more thin skinned babies who want to cry about everything. I heard that after Obama said since he's a share holder the Packers should initiate a trade to send Rodgers down to the Bears. Apparently the following day they issued a statement that Obama likes Jay Cutler and doesn't want him traded. Seriously?

Never mind the fact that he would be re-joining a different roster after already signing a contract with an entirely different team. Am I the only one that sees the problem there?

porky88 wrote:


If a player helped the Packers win the Super Bowl, my first thought, bring them along, but then adding in they signed with one of the 31 enemies, I say hell no. They LEFT the Packers so they unfortunately miss out thanks to the Lock Out (which the Players initiated). The Packers also missed out on their Friday practice to attend the White House.
Pack93z
13 years ago

They LEFT the Packers so they unfortunately miss out thanks to the Lock Out (which the Players initiated). The Packers also missed out on their Friday practice to attend the White House.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Actually the Owners Locked out the league technically.. but I know what you are saying that Players and Owners couldn't agree in March (really the 18 months leading up to it) and it imitated the lockout.. so the players had their hands in it.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Actually the Owners Locked out the league technically.. but I know what you are saying that Players and Owners couldn't agree in March (really the 18 months leading up to it) and it imitated the lockout.. so the players had their hands in it.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



The Players taking the Owners/League to court is why the Lock Out was established, so in my opinion, the Lock Out is something the Owners did because the Players wanted to have lawyers do the talking instead of them working together like big boys. I could be mistaken, it's just how I viewed it from everything I painfully read.
Pack93z
13 years ago

The Players taking the Owners/League to court is why the Lock Out was established, so in my opinion, the Lock Out is something the Owners did because the Players wanted to have lawyers do the talking instead of them working together like big boys. I could be mistaken, it's just how I viewed it from everything I painfully read.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Correct.. but the owners opted out  of the CBA in the first place back in May 20th, 2008.. which then prompted the players to craft a lawsuit because the current CBA would have run through the 2012 season.. the lawsuits could have been avoided if both parties could have came to an agreement before the league end of the 2010 season, which was in March.

Muddled waters.. in short, both parties carry (in my mind) equal blame for the initiation of the Lockout.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Correct.. but the owners opted out  of the CBA in the first place back in May 20th, 2008.. which then prompted the players to craft a lawsuit because the current CBA would have run through the 2012 season.. the lawsuits could have been avoided if both parties could have came to an agreement before the league end of the 2010 season, which was in March.

Muddled waters.. in short, both parties carry (in my mind) equal blame for the initiation of the Lockout.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



The Owners were stupid with the previous CBA and gave the Players too damn much. It's like when you start dating a woman if you flower with gifts and super dooper nice shit, she's going to expect it always and when you start backing off, she'll get pissed. The Owners gave too much and the Players got unreasonable. And then the Owners were greedy white bitches. Which caused Daryn Colledge to get sand in his vagina because the Packers did the right thing by not bringing players of other teams to the White House.
Pack93z
13 years ago
In your last post.. doesn't that still make it the owners fault. [grin1]
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

In your last post.. doesn't that still make it the owners fault. [grin1]

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


I'll roll with this and just say yes because I'm too exhausted to read and care ... but then Daryn Colledge should be throwing the sand in his vagina at the owners and since the Packers have no prototypical 'owner', then the Packers are absolved.

Different path, same result. Weeeee. Doggggie!
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