Greg C.
13 years ago
Peter King listed his top 20 players today, and Tramon Williams came in at #16. Good for Peter for acknowledging Tramon's excellence. He also has Aaron Rodgers at #2 (behind only Tom Brady), and Clay Matthews at #11.

The players' top 20 had Rodgers at #11, Charles Woodson at #16, and Matthews at #18. Williams failed to make their top 100. I don't know where King ranked Woodson, but I think his list is more accurate. He ranked the players on their current impact more than their reputations.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/07/24/labor/1.html 
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I didn't think this should be in the Packers section so...
http://packershome.com/tabid/63/g/posts/t/13084/Peter-King-s-Top-20--2011.aspx 


It was a toss, an internal toss up, lol.


I was surprised to see Tramon Williams being touted as 3rd best CB in the NFL. It's cool, I just don't think it's yet deserved.
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adroge
13 years ago
Which cornerbacks are better? Revis and Nnamdi get the credit, but Revis had a slow start last season and Nnamdi isn't exactly a playmaker. I'm not saying he is better than those guys, but in terms of the 2010-2011 season I think Williams had a better year. I'm not suprised to see him on King's top 20 because in my opinion Williams had the best year of any cornerback in football last year. The question is can he continue to play at that level?
Greg C.
13 years ago

I didn't think this should be in the Packers section so...
http://packershome.com/tabid/63/g/posts/t/13084/Peter-King-s-Top-20--2011.aspx 


It was a toss, an internal toss up, lol.


I was surprised to see Tramon Williams being touted as 3rd best CB in the NFL. It's cool, I just don't think it's yet deserved.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Your post in the other section is all about the Packers anyway, so I think it's better in the Packer section. But we could always start a general discussion about it in the other section, if anyone wants to. Personally I don't care much about it beyond the Packer players.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
He also has added value in that he returns punts.
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K_Buz
13 years ago
Even tho he is complimenting a Packer, I don't listen to a think Peter Kings says.
13 years ago

I was surprised to see Tramon Williams being touted as 3rd best CB in the NFL. It's cool, I just don't think it's yet deserved.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The only CBs with more INTs than Williams over the last three years are Charles Woodson and Asante Samuel.

Greg C.
13 years ago

The only CBs with more INTs than Williams over the last three years are Charles Woodson and Asante Samuel.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



Woah, I did not know that! It's especially impressive considering that he only started about half those games. Where did you find that stat?

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peteralan71
13 years ago

The only CBs with more INTs than Williams over the last three years are Charles Woodson and Asante Samuel.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



That's a fun stat.

I think it's pretty awesome that Tramon is getting recognition. Give it one more year and he'll be on the top of the fans and players lists as well. Also, ARod coming in at #2 on King's list is fun to see.
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bozz_2006
13 years ago
Yeah, I'm thinking the Pro Bowl selections and media accolades are going to start rolling in for a lot of our guys now. I'm almost kind of upset about it, to be honest.

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