peteralan71
13 years ago


A guy named Shaky is returning kicks.... he's kind of set himself up for humility on this one unless he is dynamite!
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I just read no undrafted rookies could be signed yet. wtf
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DoddPower
13 years ago
I like the 6'4 WR. Decent speed too.
nerdmann
13 years ago
http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/07/24/top-ten-2011-undrafted-free-agents-on-offense-nfl-teams-will-be-targeting-whenever-that-happens/ 

Top Ten 2011 Undrafted Free Agents on Offense NFL Teams will be Targeting

In anticipation of a new CBA being in place by the end of this week, I wanted to give you all a reminder of some good players who never heard their name called in the April NFL DRAFT. Much of the attention in the next couple of weeks will be on Veteran free Agent signings, as 1/4 of the league’s players are eligible to sign wherever they can find work offers. But for a lot of teams like the PACKERS, STEELERS, BENGALS, etc. the search will be on for a few good men who probably should have been drafted, and will scratch out an NFL career the hard way.

If you doubt the effectiveness of finding good players through this process please remember that the Super Bowl champion PACKERS were starting 2 such rookies at the end of last season in SAM SHIELDS & FRANK ZOMBO. A little luck, some patience, good coaching & skilled eyes in the Personnel Dept. can bring good value to an NFL roster at very little initial cost. And it appears that there will indeed be a Salary Cap to struggle with in the new CBA.



PAT DEVLIN/QB/DELAWARE/6’3/225 Yes, I had him ranked way down at slot 243 on my prospect list. Which means i didn’t see him as an immediate prospect to start in the NFL. But he has some attributes that make him worth a roster spot in a training Camp. Some recent performance institute testing has revealed that he has a quick release, and a very accurate delivery. He may be more than the dink-and-dunk QB he appeared to be for the Blue Hens much of the time. He needs some TLC from a QB guru, but if he can be stashed on a Practice Squad for a couple of years he might develop into an NFL player. And don’t discount the fact that he fits the physical norm for an NFL QB.



SCOTT TOLZIEN/QB/WISCONSIN/6’2/212 He’s not an exceptional athlete and he has a bad habit of getting rattled/flustered when the pocket collapses too often. But on the other hand he is very cerebral, throws with high accuracy and from what I have seen on film and in Orlando he has above average arm strength. His ball is very catchable and he commands a huddle with is intelligence. I thought he was a 6th/7th Round prospect. He certainly appears to have more to offer a team than a guy named SORGI who has forged a nice back-up career serving as a personal caddy for the MNNING family. Without unreasonable expectations and in a West COast style Offense he could contribute in a couple of years after developing on a Practice Squad somewhere.



RICARDO LOCKETTE/WR/FORT VALLEY STATE/6’2/210 Speed kills in the NFL. Now it’s one thing to always Draft the fastest player at the COMBINE every year (yes, I’m talking to you AL DAVIS), but it’s quite another to take on a project with a late Pick or as a RFA. LOCKETTE ran a 4.37/40 at the COMBINE, which tied him for the 4th fastest time overall.The 3 faster players, and the one tied with him were all Drafted. LOCKETTE has very good size for his speed. He is a track guy trying to become an NFL caliber player, but he shows flashes of getting it. It seems to me that the rest of the transition is a matter of time and hard work to develop into a player worthy of a No. 3-4 receiver position. A team looking to add a potential field-stretching weapon should jump all over LOCKETTE next week.



DANE SANZENBACHER/WR/OHIO STATE/5’11/185 On the other end of the QR spectrum I present MR. SANZENBACHER for your approval. None of his testing numbers will impress you (although he did show quickness & change of direction in some COMBINE drills), but watching him block, play special teams and catch everything thrown his way on game tape will. I can guarantee you there are 10 NFL teams that want him added to their roster. For those of you with a football memory longer than 3 years just recall another BIG TEN kid who put together an outstanding career as a Special Teamer and a No. 4 receiver in the NFL: STEVE TASKER. He’ll also be a fan favorite (ala TASKER) as an over-achieving, underdog. One of the Ohio based teams would do well to pony up for his services. He’ll be worth a lot of local fan appeal in the state of Ohio.



TERRENCE TOLIVER/WR/LSU/6’4/210 I remember watching him during practices at SHRINE week in Orlando, and thinking ‘smooth as silk’ watching him run his patterns. His 4.59/40 from the COMBINE was disappointing, but not shocking. He is one of those long legged, long striding players who take a while to gain momentum and speed. He also disappears at times and doesn’t look like he cares all the time. In fact he reminds me some of EARLY DOUCET, who got called out by MIKE NOLAN at the SR Bowl a few years ago. If some team thinks they can get his intensity level closer to his talent level signing him could pay long term dividends. When he plays hard and works at his craft he can catch the ball over defenders and make plays. His size should make him an obvious Red Zone weapon. He’ll get signed based on potential, but based on what he has shown overall in his career the leash and patience level may be pretty short with most NFL coaching staffs.



DERRICK LOCKE/RB/RS/KENTUCKY/5’8/185 Down in Mobile during Senior Bowl week LOCKE was the player that many thought NOEL DEVINE would be. He was quick, and elusive. He also showed fine straight line speed, which was confirmed with his official 40-time of 4.40 registered at the COMBINE. He shows decent hands and could bring some value as a Return Specialist. To my eyes he fits the niche of the undersized, explosive guys that NFL teams must find spots for on their rosters, as they search for guys who can make big plays off the bench. He was overshadowed at Kentucky by RANDALL COBB, but is a weapon in his own right. His ego was apparently bent of shape when he wasn’t drafted, as evidence by some nasty remarks about not being interested at all in the UFL. But if he gets a decent shot with an NFL team I think he might a very difficult guy to cut come September.



MARIO FANNIN/RB/AUBURN/5’11/225 You could have knocked me over with a feather when MARIO went undrafted. He was a versatile, hard working piece of the Auburn Offense last year. He runs hard, catches out of the backfield and is better than average in pass-pro. What shocked me was him running a 4.38/40 in Indy (2nd best amongst RB) and still not getting a sniff. I see a guy who will play Special Teams without hesitation and fill multiple rolls in a West Coast style offense.His agent’s phone should be quite busy when the signing period begins. He should be a very hard player to cut from a roster when it comes time to fill the last half-dozen roster spots on the right team.



WESLYE SAUNDERS/TE/SOUTH CAROLINA/6’5/270 Talk about the ultimate waste of talent in 2011 meet MR. SAUNDERS. This exceptional athlete, and physical specimen, is about to go down in flames as a football player before he even gets a chance to earn himself a nice living as an NFL player. His physical gifts are unchallenged, but between injuries and off-field indiscretions he has become almost untouchable to most NFL teams. It will not surprise me if he goes unsigned by any of the 32 NFL franchises right now. He is probably going to have to do penance in the CFL or UFL, and he’d better resign himself to that concept right away and try to latch on with a team. If he stays out of trouble, and produces on he field in some venue, then an NFL team may come sniffing in a couple of years. His talent says “draftable” but i can’t tell you I’d want him on my team at this stage of his life.



WILLIE SMITH/OT/EAST CAROLINA/6’5/310 Heading into the COMBINE it looked like SMITH had the kind of size, athleticism & potential to make a move up the prospect ladder. But his performance in Indy was uninspired to say the least. His 5.50/40 might have been recordable with a sun dial. Only 6 players had 40 times slower than his. And he failed to blow anyone away during any drill work. He is a decent athlete and can move his feet a little. He also looks like he could bulk up a bit for a power running scheme. Only a few OT prospects weren’t Drafted in April so his name is on a very short list of potential RFA. But on tape he looks like a decent player who could develop with some hard work and solid coaching. Despite his short comings expect to see his name on a signing list near you soon.



RYAN BARTHOLOMEW/OC/SYRACUSE/6’1/302 So how does a guy who bench presses like a fiend, and runs a sub-5 second 40-time not get Drafted? Good question, but the position he plays and his short arms explain quite a bit. Even so, OC is not a glamour position manned in most instances by glamour athletes. If SCOTT WELLS can forge a solid career in Green Bay, I see no reason BARTHOLOMEW can’t do the same given a chance with the right team. It won’t be an exciting announcement when he signs on with someone soon, but it he gets to a Training Camp and displays the energy and want-to that I believe he will, then he’ll have a shot at an NFL roster this Fall.

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nerdmann
13 years ago
http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2011/07/25/top-ten-2011-undrafted-free-agents-on-defense-nfl-teams-will-be-targeting-whenever-that-happens/ 

Top Ten 2011 Undrafted Free Agents on Defense NFL Teams will be Targeting

MARTIN PARKER/DT/RICHMOND/6’2/300

There is no logical reason to explain PARKER’s availability right now. he had a stellar senior season on a good team. He has decent size and athleticism for the NFL game. He showed very well at SHRINE Week, actually capturing the Defensive MVP award for the game. He showed well at the COMBINE running a 5.03/40 which was 10th best at the DT position. He is, at the least, a good candidate for a 4-3 scheme DL rotation. He was the only player in my TOP 100 list, not to be Drafted in April. He may be limited and unlikely to ever get to a Pro Bowl, but he looks the part of a DL rotation player at the pro level.


CORBIN BRYANT/DE/NORTHWESTERN/6’4/302

A good athlete who has developed slowly, but steadily during his college career. He played DT in a 4-3 front at Northwestern, but might be best suited for a 3-4 scheme as a DE in the pros. Not being invited to the COMBINE hurt his stock a bit. He may have to be stashed and groomed on a Practice Squad for a year or two, but after watching him play in 3 games last Fall I think his potential is undeniable for a team with patience, teaching coaches and the right scheme for his talents.


CEDRIC THORNTON/DE/S.ARKANSAS/6’4/300

I admit to falling in love with this small school guy for his work on the practice field in Mobile. He looked like he belonged physically and mentally all week. He lost some ground at the COMBINE, but not enough to drop out of the DRAFT. He has good size and looks quicker in pads than his 5.26/40 time in Indy.With all due respect to the SAU Football Program this guy is raw and has not had the advantages or facilities afforded to players who attended big school programs in the FBS division. I now hear he has some “off-field issues”, but cannot get anyone to give me specifics. WIth time and coaching I think this guy can develop into a starting DE in a 3-4 scheme in the NFL. Come on WHITEY, sign this guy for the PACK.


CHRISTIAN ANTHONY/DE/GRAMBLING/6’4/280

Because of injury ANTHONY pretty much lost his senior season, but he was able to play at the Texas v. Nation game in San Antonio. He has always had pass-rush skills, which he flashed at that game, but i was impressed to see him weigh in at a solid, still lean looking 280 lbs. That number potentially moves him out of the pass-rush specialist category and into consideration as an any down DE in a 4-3 scheme. I was not shocked to see him go undrafted, but I am still wondering if their were some disastrous notes on his medical charts that NFL teams are wary of. WE’ll soon find out, because if healthy he certainly deserves consideration in some team’s training camp this Summer.


MARK HERZLICH/LB/BOSTON COLLEGE/6’4/250

Concern for his long term health as a cancer survivor has to be the biggest reason for his availability on this list. He wasn’t the dominant player in 2010 that he had been 3 seasons ago, but that was expected after losing a full year to battling the Big C. But he showed flashes and their is no reason to think he won’t be even better in 2011… playing somewhere. He certainly should have been worth a Saturday Pick in the 2011 DRAFT. It seems to me that teams were reluctant to select a player they might have to commit up front money to, with his long term health being in question. Some team is going to get a hell of a bargain in the next few weeks. His locker room presence and PR value in the city he plays in is almost worth signing him for. But chances are some team gets a heck of a player as well.


JOSH BYNES/ILB/AUBURN/6’1/240

Another incredibly productive college player who somehow slipped through the scouting cracks this Spring. He anchored a national championship defense and didn’t get invited to the COMBINE?! His height and weight are adequate for NFL play. Every team has 1 or 2 guys with his numbers. His play reminds me of BRANDON SPIKES of the PATS, in that he out-performs his numbers with football smarts out on the field of play. He seems to find the ball and can make the big play more than you might reasonable expect. Will he play Special Teams? Will he lead by example? Will he be good in the locker room? the list goes on and the answers are all going to be that, yes, he will become an integral part of an NFL team.


NICK BELLORE/ILB/CENTRAL MICHIGAN/6’1/245

Similar to BYNES, his play on the grass surpasses his testing at a COMBINE. But he’s not a slouch athletically or mentally. He had the highest Wonderlic score in Indy other than a QB. He failed to record 100 tackles (90) only in his senior season, when he started only 11 games. His tackling fundamentals are solid and will translate well on Special Teams. He looks to have enough potential mentally and physically to contribute in multiple ways as an NFL roster member. He’ll bring multiple skills and a great attitude to his pro team. He probably never starts on a regular basis, but could be a valuable back-up and part time fill-in for a team using a 3-4 scheme.


JOE LEFEGED/S/RUTGERS/6’0/210

LEFEGED is a much better athlete than you might think. But he was underproductive during his career at RUTGERS. Someone starting 37 games and with his athleticism and size should have more than 238 tackles and 2 INT for their career. But part of that may be attributed to a RUTGERS defensive scheme that plays its Safeties deeper than almost any team in D-1 football, even on early downs.He looked solid in Mobile, but did not stand out. Of great value is the fact that he has been a gunner on Special Teams coverage units. He shows enough toughness to develop into a better pro defender than he was in college. I had him ranked as my 155th best Prospect, not a RFA.


KENDRIC BURNEY/CB/UNC/5’9/180

Because of his short stature and lack of elite speed (4/75/40 @ COMBINE) I had him rated as a late round Draft Pick, but not a RFA. he got caught up in the violations hubbub at UNC this past season and only played in 6 games. But he started 44 games in his college career and came away with 11 INT. he seems to have a real nose for the football and is elusive with the ball in his hands. Will come up to provide run support despite diminutive height. He’s a slower ANTOINE WINFIELD and certainly has the skills and overall athleticism to play in the pros. He should be able to earn a spot as a sub-package Corner, perhaps right away. I thought he would be over-Drafted, but now I see him as a valuable RFA signee.


RYAN JONES/CB/NW MISSOURI STATE/5’11/197

I will fess up and admit that I have not seen JONES in action. I can only go by numbers and scouting reports from people I trust & respect. The consensus seems to be that this small school player has the tools to play in the NFL. He will of course require patience and coaching up, but offers more upside than some players taken during the April event. Not getting invited to the COMBINE to post some official numbers cost this young man, as it does many other small school players. Watch for some team that builds through the Draft process, like THE PACK, to be all over him once the signings begin. I just have a positive vibe on his potential to play in the NFL.

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porky88
13 years ago
I would love to see the Pack take a look at Derrick Locke.
beast
13 years ago

I just read no undrafted rookies could be signed yet. wtf

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



NFL says UDFA Rookies can't sign yet. To you that sounds like rookies aren't allowed to sign yet.

To NFL teams that sounds like they can sign UDFA Rookies, but they're not allowed to officially submit it yet to the NFL.
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beast
13 years ago
RYAN JONES/CB/NW MISSOURI STATE/5’11/197

When I looked up Ryan Jones up after the draft I couldn't find a lot of video but there was a little. In that he reminded me of Nick Collins in college (minus the big size and freak speed Collins has). I saw a physical small school CB who struggled big time when he had to turn his back to the QB but as long as he was facing the QB/WR did very well. Moving Collins to FS seem to help a lot... he doesn't have to turn his back to the QB nearly as often because he's so far back. I want to sign Jones and move him to S, I think he's physical enough and he's coverage skill is good enough to do it.

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