Pack93z
13 years ago

If the industry would lower costs, revenue would climb. My family still buys DVDs occasionally -- but only the ones that cost less than $10. We don't buy the ones that are priced $15 to $25. I occasionally buy cheap CDs too, although my primary source of music nowadays is secondhand stores. I recently purchased 11 albums (16 CDs) for 27,50€. That's less than I would have paid for 3 CDs at new prices.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 





In this theory then.. the artists themselves must come to grips with the fact that they are highly overpaid and should no longer expect the industry to overpay them for their services just because they name may draw more interest into a marginal film effort.



One of the primary reasons I hold contempt for Metallica.. they failed to understand what built and feed them as a band. Once they broke through the mainstream.. they started to hold on their hand for more to be deposited into it. But from that point forward they have done little of anything of quality.. Hence why many have  claimed that the Black album was a sellout effort..
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I would not say that artists are overpaid. Their share of the revenues is appallingly low. Do some reading, for example, on how ASCAP distributes royalties to songwriters. Most of their members never see a dime from their songs. BMI is somewhat more fair, but not much.

What artists should be doing is leaving the labels in drove and self-distributing their work. (The problem with already signed artists is that if they left, they would in many cases also lose performance rights to their own music!) That way, if they only charged, say, $5 per CD, they would be making about $4 per impression, instead of the $1 per impression they get now. Under such a system, many of the artists could stand a reduction in sales volume due to the lack of promotional budget and could still see an increase in net revenue. Plus they would retain the rights to their music.

The future belongs to the independent artist. The big conglomerates know this, which is why they keep frantically petitioning Congress to extend copyright protection. What is it now, 97 years after the death of the artist or something absurd like that? And Congress keeps shamefully abetting their greed.

It pleases me that people are starting to revolt against this abuse by closing their pocketbooks.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

I would not say that artists are overpaid. Their share of the revenues is appallingly low. Do some reading, for example, on how ASCAP distributes royalties to songwriters. Most of their members never see a dime from their songs. BMI is somewhat more fair, but not much.

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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 





Artists include actors/actresses.. and I am sorry the amount of jack that they obtain for some of these garbage films is ridiculous.



I will agree that the music industry has a far less artist friendly structure.. even then the artist is the one to blame in that arrangement.



Today's environment with various avenues to market themselves.. they have little to blame but themselves.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Indoor shoes wear out too. Maybe a little slower but they still do.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


We don't wear shoes in my house. 🙂
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Nor in mine. Of course, we tend not to wear clothes either, but that's another topic.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Nor in mine. Of course, we tend not to wear clothes either, but that's another topic.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


(note to self, auto accept any invitation to Rourkes house, preferably if only women are in attendance)
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Hey, even a blind man could see that Kat2 is HOT, and zombieslayer thinks Kat1 is hot too.
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Pack93z
13 years ago

Hey, even a blind man could see that Kat2 is HOT, and zombieslayer thinks Kat1 is hot too.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 





Need graphical stimuli to validate above statement. 🙂
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13 years ago

We don't wear shoes in my house. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I guess I should clarify myself. Indoor running shoes.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Sadly, Kat1 has an odd sort of Puckish beauty that doesn't translate well to film at all. She just isn't photogenic. I have only managed to take one picture of her over the years that brought out her good points, and I am a pretty decent photographer.

Kat2 is a trained model, so it is a lot easier to photograph her. She uses the photo below, or one like it, for her modeling ID and resumes. Since I took the portrait, I am pretty proud of that.  Kat Portrait.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.  IMG_6113.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
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